A little creative exercise, for those who know the anime/manga Black Clover, which characters would you bring to Pathfinder 2, and what would they be like? Show me your creations and the process behind them! A.k.a I'm out of ideas for characters and I'm definitely going to steal some builds!
The problem of Black Clover characters to be adapted to PF2 is that they are heavy specialized casters with each caster using only one type of magic.
In this concept you can get some of this with kineticist and maybe with psychics yet they will be far from cover most themes.
In my mind, the issues is that what the characters in Black Clover can accomplish is so over the top compared to what characters in Pahtfinder can do, I would find the results unsatisfying.
Maybe like early episodes of Black Clover where power level is generally still low. But things get crazy pretty quickly.
The power level isn't a real problem IMO. Many level 9 spells are visually and mechanically devastating and powerful. The main problem is for example you can make a caster focused only in illusion or darkness or poison and so on.
If we have a kineticist with the same number of possible thematic casters that black cover has it would be possible but currently you are restricted to the 4 classic elements + metal and wood.
The problem of Black Clover characters to be adapted to PF2 is that they are heavy specialized casters with each caster using only one type of magic.
In this concept you can get some of this with kineticist and maybe with psychics yet they will be far from cover most themes.
I'd like to see it done though. Maybe as a variant rule, where there is almost open ended reskining of spells. That is use existing spells but redo all the effect flavours.
The power level isn't a real problem IMO. Many level 9 spells are visually and mechanically devastating and powerful. The main problem is for example you can make a caster focused only in illusion or darkness or poison and so on.
If we have a kineticist with the same number of possible thematic casters that black cover has it would be possible but currently you are restricted to the 4 classic elements + metal and wood.
Yeah. So you finally get to reach the level of power of Black Clover when you reach level 17 in character.
I suppose that technically works, if you want to have a whole campaign that is primarily covering just the early parts of the show, and once s**% starts to get crazy the campaign is ending because the system doesn't have much room left for mechanical advancement.
I still personally find it to be a bigger issue, but your issue raised about making it hard to build a character around an entire concept of darkness or poison is also a valid issue.
Like if everyone were just cool with playing the elements available to kineticists and not having the huge variability of themes then it could work.
Both are problems for sure. I just happen to think the power scaling one in worse.
Like if everyone were just cool with playing the elements available to kineticists and not having the huge variability of themes then it could work.
Both are problems for sure. I just happen to think the power scaling one in worse.
Disclosure: I'm not familiar with the manga so this is all "in theory..." -based suggestions...
1. For themed magic: rather than PCs restricting themselves to the in-game spells and powers that fit their theme, reskin in-game powers to match the theme. So fireball is available to any caster, just change "fire" to "your themed source." You could do the same thing with kineticists. Should be pretty simple GM work to tell the player to build a kineticist exactly as per the rules, but substituting appropriate traits for the official ones.
It's not that reskinning is bad, but like if you were to make a Darkness version of fireball...if all you did was change the damage type to.....I don't even know....it would end up being unsatisfying (at least to me). Like shouldn't it do something else? But then it's a higher level spell (probably). Or do you lower the damage to grant an additional effect? Etc.
Like it's a good idea in theory...but what you're really doing is inventing a bunch of new spells.