cyndaco |
Hello! I've never posted on here before, so I hope I got everything right!
I had this doubt in mind for a while now and I wondered if someone could help me out.
I want to get a familiar for my Rogue - specifically, the Figment/Sage archetype combo - mainly because I really like the idea of her hanging out with a little buddy and because I didn't invest much in INT and Knowledge skills as I would have wished.
I've read a lot of old threads which rightly suggested that alternative paths such as Skill Focus-Eldritch Heritage or the Familiar Bond feats line were more convenient than the advanced rogue talent... But I wanted to save some feats for other melee tactics. She's already at level 10, so there's no particular rush.
Prerequisite: Advanced talents, major magic talent, minor magic talent
Benefit: A rogue with this talent gains a familiar as the familiar option of the wizard’s arcane bond class feature. This ability functions exactly like that part of the class feature, but the rogue’s effective wizard level is her rogue level –4.
I wanted to find a way to increase her effective wizard level, since the Sage archetype really benefits from it. And I stumbled upon the Boon Companion feat.
Prerequisite: Animal companion class feature or familiar class feature.
Benefit: The abilities of your animal companion or familiar are calculated as though your class were 4 levels higher, to a maximum effective druid level equal to your character level. If you have more than one animal companion or familiar, choose one to receive this benefit. If you dismiss or lose an animal companion or familiar that has received this benefit, you can apply this feat to the replacement creature.
Special: You can select this feat more than once. The effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a different animal companion or familiar.
Is a Rogue with the Rogue Talent actually qualified for this feat? Does the Rogue Talent grant her "the familiar class feature"?
Personally, I don't think so... RAW you get a "maximum effective druid level", not a maximum effective wizard level, but maybe I'm wrong. It doesn't hurt to ask!
Thank you!
happykj |
There is a discussion about this before, unfortunately no official answer for it.
The words "maximum effective druid level" is the most confusing part, I don't remember any familiar that is rely on effective druid level.
Diego Rossi |
I don't think that using a rogue talent to get a familiar makes it a class feature, so, RAW, it shouldn't work.
However, I don't see any balance problem in allowing it.
The stuff about the Druid level:
but the rogue’s effective wizard level is her rogue level –4.
So, you get an effective Wizard level of Rogue-4.
The abilities of your animal companion or familiar are calculated as though your class were 4 levels higher,
So far, so good, you get an increase of your effective Wizard level.
to a maximum effective druid level equal to your character level
Now you get a camp. But your effective Wizard level doesn't care about a cap to your effective Druid level.
Strictly RAW, you have a cap that doesn't do anything as it targets the wrong class.RAI, it clearly means "your effective maximum level for the feature that gives you the familiar is your character level", and so it applies to the effective Wizard level you get from the Rogue talent.