Dwarven Emperor


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


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Highhelm is in Emperor’s Peak. This implies that there is or was an Emperor. Was Taargick the “emperor” before his death or am I missing something. I’m just trying to wrap my head around the lore.


Highhelm doesn't describe any particular emperor, so I would assume it's a reference to Taargick, potentially a nod to Torag (though I don't think he uses that title?), or maybe just a poetic nod to the mountain's own majesty ('a peak fit for an emperor').


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Do the Dwarves call it Emperor's Peak, or was that name coined by the Taldans who at the time did have an Empire (and an Emperor)? Like the mountain was on the way from Taldor to all of their colonies further west. It's not like you need to get close to a mountain to name it, you can just look at the tallest mountain around and point and say "That's the mountain for the Gods/Emperor."

Having an Emperor seems like a undwarfish thing to do, since for Dwarves the model for leadership is Torag who is the Patriarch as in he is in charge of, but also responsible for all of the Dwarven people. A mortal emperor would have to be in charge of/responsible for more people than they can personally keep track of, so Dwarves would most likely find that uncomfortable.

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Eh. An emperor is someone who has multiple kingdoms or even kings under them. At one point the Five Kings Mountains were a lot more strictly unified, enough that it's kinda a mountain empire.


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Eh. An emperor is someone who has multiple kingdoms or even kings under them. At one point the Five Kings Mountains were a lot more strictly unified, enough that it's kinda a mountain empire.

So did they elect a high king to rule over the assembly? Maybe on some kind of rotational system generation to generation among the five?

I mean, obviously that goes out the window once the Five Kings become divided and everything devolves into internal bickering. But during the hey day did they effectively have an emperor?

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So I did a quick ctrl+f through books to see what I could find.

The PF2 Highhelm book mentions the empire of Tar Kharudurrm once or twice. The old PF1 Dwarves of Golarion book mentions two dwarven empires:

Tar Targaadt as being the main subterranean empire, played a big role in the Quest for Sky.

Tar Khadurrm, as their big above-ground empire during their golden age after the Quest for Sky. Eventually things fell apart, and five new kingdoms sprang up, which is why it's now called the Five Kings Mountains.

You can find a bit in the PathfinderWiki but those two books are the main source to look to. Keep in mind though that the old book is really really old.

If you're interested in dwarven history, I'm pretty confident there's also going to be a lot in the Sky King's Tomb adventure path.


Who named it anyway? The Taldans could’ve named it Emperor’s Peak but to the dwarves it could be Peak 32C, Range 3 for all we know.


Just noticed Taargick is an anagram for a tragick.

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Ye removed extra A so that makes it not an anagram plus tragic doesn't have K so if that was the case, it would be kinda forced anagram with two spelling errors


“A tragick”. Anagram.


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I mean the Alghollthus are so named because of a repeated typo by one of the Paizo folks when trying to spell "Although" when typing too fast. The planet the Dragon Age games are is called Thedas, was a placeholder name in development for "The Dragon Age Setting" or "The DAS".

Never underestimate a writer's ability to just go with something.

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Thank you. This gives me food for thought.


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