Is there a remaster intro adventure?


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Grand Lodge

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I know I can use all the old adventures but was wondering if there was an adventure released in remastered rules? With intro about changes in the game things like removal of alignement (and the changes to address that) and things like that? Basically highlighting shifts for people? I have gaming event on the 25th where I would like to high light the remaster.

Silver Crusade

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The adventure line is behind the rules line. They've yet to announce what the first adventure is using the remastered rules, so as yet no there is no intro adventure.


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Plus it’ll be another 8 months before remaster is completed.


They'll kind of need to put out a remastered Beginner Box at some point fairly soon, right?
Be awkward bringing people in with the old Beginner Box and then expecting them to jump straight to remastered rules.

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AnimatedPaper wrote:
Plus it’ll be another 8 months before remaster is completed.

Saying that the remaster will be "completed" in 8 months is quite laughable to me...

Warning, opinion zone:
The idea that the Remaster will simply be comprised of the currently announced books is not only flawed but short-sighted, Paizo has been VERY careful not to say that the Remaster is only these current books, and every time they've spoken publicly about it expanding they simply state they do not have any other books to announce at this time. All of this taken together means they are trying to tread lightly so as to not let on that the whole of PF2 is eventually going to be "remastered" into what amounts to a new half edition via something like a GMC 2/3/4, PC 3/4/5, and MC 2/3/4 etc. There is a near-zero chance that once they sell the first sprint of Remaster books they're going to pivot all of their team who has been working on it to split between new books that will be fully Remaster compatible in order to generate income while the other half stays behind to carefully go line by line through the other hardcover releases to issue errata for PDFs of books the will never create a second physical print run of and make practically zero return on.

I am more than confident that Magus, Summoner, Investigator, Gunslinger, Inventor, Psychic, and Thaumaturge are going to see true and needed overhauls to bring them in line with the new PC1/2 balance and functions/features/abilities it is absolutely going to be in a wholistic approach that improves them all and at the same time can actually generate income for the company.

To think that the 90% of PF2 that already exists and has hit the street is going to be given errata at no cost to bring it in line with the Remaster or that it will forever be considered "backward compatible" is nieve to say the least and is only as true for PF2 as saying that 3.0-3.5 D&D content was backward compatible for PF1 when everyone knew right from the start that the two silos of options from editions were not balanced compared against each other and it only really helped to fill in gaps in the infant system until after the first wave of Core books launched and it could run on its own. The marketing behind how it's not an edition change (be it a whole, half, or smaller number iteration) is disingenuous and is being asserted as true only because consumers are notoriously hostile, or at best ambivalent, to the idea of an edition change/iteration but all that will change once enough people have access to the new Core rules, math, balance, and versions of core stuff.


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I mean you keep saying that but we can literally look at PC1 and GMC right now and see quite plainly that huge swaths of the game are more or less exactly the same, and even the most significantly different things are still built upon the exact same framework.

The whole "This is secretly PF3" thing just doesn't align with reality.


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thejeff wrote:

They'll kind of need to put out a remastered Beginner Box at some point fairly soon, right?

Be awkward bringing people in with the old Beginner Box and then expecting them to jump straight to remastered rules.

I think the beginners box was closer to the remaster than the original rules anyway. Pretty sure the pregens there didn't have ability scores, for example, just modifiers. The beginners box is also pretty self-containted and already has inconsistencies with how spells and items worked compared to the core rulebook, and omitted a lot of rules and feats that weren't relevant to levels 1-4 clerics, fighters, rogues, and wizards.

I think they plan to do a new remaster beginner box, but moving from the beginner box to the Remastered Core books doesn't seem significantly clunkier than moving from the beginners box to CRB.

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The bulk of the changes that will affect adventures in a remaster come down to monster, spell, and magic item choice, since remastered adventures won't be able to include those things if they're only available as a result of the OGL. That said, those elements will still function perfectly fine if you use remastered rules to create characters and run the game—the GM will just need to have a few more books/webpages open to reference monster, spell, and magic items when they come up.

Rusthenge is a brand new 1st level standalone adventure out now, and while it's not written to be an "introduction to the game" adventure, it IS a 1st level adventure so a pretty logical place to kick off a first game with the remastered rules.


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Themetricsystem wrote:
AnimatedPaper wrote:
Plus it’ll be another 8 months before remaster is completed.

Saying that the remaster will be "completed" in 8 months is quite laughable to me...

** spoiler omitted **...

Yeah except that's not what I was talking about. The core books for remaster, much of which yet unreleased is still needed for fully remastered adventures, will be the 4 announced titles.

Of course there will be more books, and they will of course contain remastered options of previously released content. In fact, we already know that to be the case with Lost Omens Divine Mysteries. I never suggested otherwise.


James Jacobs wrote:
Rusthenge is a brand new 1st level standalone adventure out now, and while it's not written to be an "introduction to the game" adventure, it IS a 1st level adventure so a pretty logical place to kick off a first game with the remastered rules.

Will there demo adventure for remastered that replaces "Menace under Otari"?

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Laclale♪ wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Rusthenge is a brand new 1st level standalone adventure out now, and while it's not written to be an "introduction to the game" adventure, it IS a 1st level adventure so a pretty logical place to kick off a first game with the remastered rules.
Will there demo adventure for remastered that replaces "Menace under Otari"?

Maybe some day.

Grand Lodge

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AnimatedPaper wrote:
Themetricsystem wrote:
AnimatedPaper wrote:
Plus it’ll be another 8 months before remaster is completed.

Saying that the remaster will be "completed" in 8 months is quite laughable to me...

** spoiler omitted **...

Yeah except that's not what I was talking about. The core books for remaster, much of which yet unreleased is still needed for fully remastered adventures, will be the 4 announced titles.

Of course there will be more books, and they will of course contain remastered options of previously released content. In fact, we already know that to be the case with Lost Omens Divine Mysteries. I never suggested otherwise.

Yea I own Rusthenge, looks be a lot of fun. But I was looking for something to help with changes (not many) like something around spell schools and the changes to alignment, holy vs unholy and void vs vitality. No problem I can introduce them in one of the PFS scenarios.

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