Pathfinder Remaster is the perfect opportunity to revise the Armageddon Engine!


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The Spawn of Rovagug look like bugs. Which is very logical and natural, since their father Rovagug looks like a bug too. Even the rust monsters who were created by Rovagug look like bugs. Even the appearances of qlippoth reminded me those of bugs. But Tarrasque the Armageddon Engine is the only exception. While it is the greatest among the Spawn, it has no trace of a bug at all. Instead it looks like... a dinosaur? To me, Tarrasque looks more like Treerazer than it looks like a bug. Which has always irritated me. I'm not sure if Tarrasque is the intellectual property of Wizard of the Coast or not (as far as I know, the name Tarrasque is from the real world mythology so Paizo can use this monster freely perhaps?), but if Paizo is so concerned about removing every last trace of Dungeons & Dragons from Pathfinder RPG, why not revise Tarrasque as well? Completely changing its appearance so that it would look more like a bug would be a good idea. Changing its name to something else would be better. I honestly have no idea why Paizo decided to make Tarrasque one of the Spawn of Rovagug in the first place (perhaps James Jacobs decided that?).

P.S. I just realized that Urtleytlar (from page 68 of From Hell's Heart), who is a Lesser Spawn of Rovagug, does not look like a bug too. Thus Tarrasque was not the only exception after all. Perhaps it was just my terrible misunderstanding, and Rovagug (and qlippoth in general) actually has nothing to do with bugs?

By the way, I have another question. Chemnosit looks like an earthworm, Kothogaz looks like a slug, Ulunat looks like a beetle, Xotani looks like a centipede. But exactly which bug do Rovagug and Volnagur resemble? I honestly have no idea.

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IIRC Paizo has stated that they will not use the Tarrasque anymore because of OGL. They will instead use other Spawns of Rovagug when there is need for one.


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The Raven Black wrote:
IIRC Paizo has stated that they will not use the Tarrasque anymore because of OGL. They will instead use other Spawns of Rovagug when there is need for one.

Pretty much. This is another one of those cases where, yes, the Tarrasque is technically from folklore, but D&D's made it so much their own at this point, and it being where everyone knows the name from mean that there could be issues using it even so.

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Or rather, if they used actual mythological Tarrasque they would be like "b-but that isn't tarrasque" and paizo has no interest in confusing those people :'D


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If I were Paizo, I'd leave converting more familiar D&D material to third party publishers who still want to use the OGL, and shift canonical focus on its own ORC-specific unique elements. If you want a Tarrasque-like foe, honestly the kaiju already fill that niche and are even stronger, and also give an opportunity to tie into the upcoming Tian Xia book.

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Morhek wrote:
If I were Paizo, I'd leave converting more familiar D&D material to third party publishers who still want to use the OGL, and shift canonical focus on its own ORC-specific unique elements. If you want a Tarrasque-like foe, honestly the kaiju already fill that niche and are even stronger, and also give an opportunity to tie into the upcoming Tian Xia book.

Or another Spawn of Rovagug. TBT those feel more unique to Golarion than the Kaiju.


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I mean "Volnagur the End-Singer" is a wonderfully evocative name for a really horrific monster. They got gold right there, already!

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Also could always revive that one in Katapesh (If memory serves they have been hinting it is already doing so.)


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Kevin Mack wrote:
Also could always revive that one in Katapesh (If memory serves they have been hinting it is already doing so.)

if you are talking about xolti the firebleeder his stats are in the last book of the age of ashes.

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