Is this item meant to be a consumable?

[Mechanical Pear]

Root of the World Tree

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Source Mythic Adventures pg. 156
Aura strong conjuration; CL 17th
Slot none; Price 300 gp (Lesser), 1,000 gp (Normal), 2,500 gp (Greater); Weight —
Description
This fibrous powder is ground from bark harvested from the roots of trees growing across planar boundaries. When thrown in the air as part of casting a conjuration (summoning) spell, it grants the creatures summoned the advanced simple template. If the caster also expends one use of mythic power, the summoned creatures gain DR 5/epic, or DR 10/epic if they have at least 11 HD. Lesser root affects conjuration (summoning) spells up to 3rd level, normal root conjuration (summoning) spells up to 6th level, and greater root any conjuration (summoning) spell.
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, Mythic Crafter, Augment Summoning, heroism; Cost 150 gp (Lesser), 500 gp (Normal), 1,250 gp (Greater)

[Diego Rossi]

"When thrown in the air as part of casting a conjuration"
If you throw a powder in the air you don't get it back. It is a single-use item.

[Mechanical Pear]

Right. Just clicked that it was a powder, cause am dumb.

[AwesomenessDog]

Diego Rossi wrote:

"When thrown in the air as part of casting a conjuration"

If you throw a powder in the air you don't get it back. It is a single-use item.

What do you mean a tiny familiar can't get you back the magical components?

[Belafon]

Diego Rossi wrote:

"When thrown in the air as part of casting a conjuration"

If you throw a powder in the air you don't get it back. It is a single-use item.

Cheesy Munchkin attempting to argue with his GM wrote:

Well, I keep all the powder in a sealed metal vial on the end of a string. I "throw it in the air" and then catch the vial on the way down.

[Azothath]

Mechanical Pear wrote:

Root of the World Tree

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yes(as it's not a poison) - it makes a nice tea or doubles for ground psyllium as a nutritional fiber supplement. ask any commodeian

[Azothath]

Belafon wrote:

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Cheesy Munchkin attempting to argue with his GM wrote:

Well, I keep all the powder in a sealed metal vial on the end of a string. I "throw it in the air" and then catch the vial on the way down.

when that happens just remind the player that a solid container cuts Line of Effect to the component so that part fails.

then munch another cheeze-it

[Mechanical Pear]

A sheek thin veiled baggie then. And if that doesn't work, then I'll point out it has the same line of effect as heavy smoke, and spells DO work even with smoke soooo....

;)

EDITED TO ADD: IRL, that's a lot of Gold pieces worth of dust. If my character has a free day, and he's anything like me, maybe he could get a magnifying glass and tweezers, and get his dust back in a bottle. Show me the RAW that says not so.

[Temperans]

Material components are used up when you cast a spell.

The only components that are not used up are focus components.

[Azothath]

Mechanical Pear wrote:

{1}A sheek thin veiled baggie then...

{2}that's a lot of Gold pieces worth of dust...

it's been silly but;

1) an empty 'tea bag' as the material component is consumed in the casting.
2) true. Divide the cost by the duration and in most cases "5" will be the longest you'll have effective use of it, so something for 9+ Level where $300 is relatively cheap BUT at that level a Mon Sum 3 isn't going to be very effective... Adv Template IS Awesome, look what it did for the standard horse. Basically it's an "In Case of Emergency" use item added to a Mon Sum 3 scroll (makes it faster to use and "stored" and you'll have to talk to your GM to figure out the cost of Augment Summoning for the scroll). Some stuff is cool but the price makes it impractical.

[Java Man]

Temperans wrote:

Material components are used up when you cast a spell.

The only components that are not used up are focus components.

Devil's advocate: it is not labeled as a material component.

[Diego Rossi]

By the same argument, you can recover a potion after drinking it, you only need to retrieve it when it leaves your body by the other end.

The item descriptions generally don't say if an item is single-use, but the cheapest multiple use item will be priced with the "Command word Spell level × caster level × 1,800 gp" formula, so 900 gp for a cantrip based effect with a CL of 1.
Appling a template is a bit stronger than that.

[Temperans]

Java Man wrote:

Temperans wrote:

Material components are used up when you cast a spell.

The only components that are not used up are focus components.

Devil's advocate: it is not labeled as a material component.

It doesn't have to be labeled to clear see what the item is doing. Not getting labeled is easily a case of editing mistake.

Not to mention it works very similar to alchemical reagents power components which are expended on use unless specificallyn used as a focus component.

[Belafon]

OK, OK, I surrender.

I had written that as a jokey reference to the ridiculously hyperliteral arguments people make on these messageboards. (Attempting to "prove" their exploit - that is clearly not intended - has to be allowed by focusing in on one descriptive word or phrase and twisting the language.)

I should have remembered that humor doesn't translate well to the internet, especially on the very boards where the hyperliteralism occurs.

[Mechanical Pear]

That's why I tried to airways include smilies and all that. As soon as it was pointed out that the dust was thrown, I had my answer.

[Temperans]

Belafon wrote:

OK, OK, I surrender.

I had written that as a jokey reference to the ridiculously hyperliteral arguments people make on these messageboards. (Attempting to "prove" their exploit - that is clearly not intended - has to be allowed by focusing in on one descriptive word or phrase and twisting the language.)

I should have remembered that humor doesn't translate well to the internet, especially on the very boards where the hyperliteralism occurs.

Sorry about that I often have trouble detecting jokes, specially in the internet.