
Squiggit |
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Well, I guess so. But it isn't going to do what you expect.
You still have to have a spell in your Repertoire in order to cast it. So picking a spell that is not in your Repertoire as your signature spell for that level seems like a bit of a waste.
There's some use if the spell you want as a signature is not the first spell you want to learn first. Like I might take Invisibility at 3 and Sound Burst at 4 but sound burst has more heightening options so I pick that as my signature.

Errenor |
breithauptclan wrote:There's some use if the spell you want as a signature is not the first spell you want to learn first. Like I might take Invisibility at 3 and Sound Burst at 4 but sound burst has more heightening options so I pick that as my signature.Well, I guess so. But it isn't going to do what you expect.
You still have to have a spell in your Repertoire in order to cast it. So picking a spell that is not in your Repertoire as your signature spell for that level seems like a bit of a waste.
In that case I just ask (well, kind of demand) the GM to not make me select signature spell at the level when my char gets a new spell level. Also it doesn't even do anything (useful) at the moment. Actually I don't even ask and just (not) do it, because nobody ever checks (and shouldn't actually).

breithauptclan |

It seems pretty obvious to me that the Signature Spells rule was written to be used on one spell in Repertoire at each spell slot level.
But that isn't technically what is written.
I would at least require that the spell chosen as a Signature Spell for a particular spell level be a spell that could be cast at that level. You can't pick Fireball as your 1st level Signature Spell for example.
how about retraining/exchanging the signature sepell as soon as something you like comes down the line?
There are two choices.
If you swap out a signature spell, you can choose a replacement signature spell of the same spell level at which you learned the previous spell.
You can pick a spell that you don't actually want and put it in your repertoire at the desired level and select it as your Signature Spell for that level. Then when you level up and get the spell that you do actually want, you can swap out that unwanted spell - since it is your Signature Spell you can then choose another spell to be Signature Spell immediately.
You can also retrain specifically to change a signature spell to a different spell of that level without swapping any spells; this takes as much time as retraining a spell normally does.
You can spend a week of downtime retraining your signature spell.
If you don't have a week of downtime and don't feel like having an unwanted spell in your Repertoire for at least a couple of levels, then you are out of options.
Personally I think that is a bit limiting and you should be able to swap around one signature spell when you level up and have the option to swap out a spell in Repertoire - since retraining a signature spell takes the same amount of time as swapping a spell. But again, the rules don't technically say that.

shroudb |
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It seems pretty obvious to me that the Signature Spells rule was written to be used on one spell in Repertoire at each spell slot level.
But that isn't technically what is written.
I would at least require that the spell chosen as a Signature Spell for a particular spell level be a spell that could be cast at that level. You can't pick Fireball as your 1st level Signature Spell for example.
to emphasise, that's also the RAW:
For each spell level you have access to, choose one spell of that level to be a signature spell.
so at level 3, you don't have access to 3rd level spells, which is the minimum spell level for fireball.
if you can cast 5th level spells, you are limited to 1 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th, and 1 5th level spells as signature ones. Although you can pick up heightened versions of spells.

Lucerious |

Quote:If you've learned a signature spell at a higher level than its minimum, you can also cast all its lower-level versions without learning those separately.So a character can learn silence as a signature spell at 4th level without learn silent spell as a 2nd level spell ?
Correct.

breithauptclan |

Waldham wrote:Correct.Quote:If you've learned a signature spell at a higher level than its minimum, you can also cast all its lower-level versions without learning those separately.So a character can learn silence as a signature spell at 4th level without learn silent spell as a 2nd level spell ?
Yes.
They can learn Silence as only a 4th level spell. They can also select that as their signature spell for 4th level and then be able to cast the 2nd level version of Silence using a 2nd level spell slot.