Hello everyone.
I checked the internet and couldn't find the explanation for what I'm trying to "cheese". Let's talk about a possible level 20 monk "combo":
Empty Body is a level 18 feat, two actions, let's you use ethereal jump, but only on yourself, for one minute, without need to sustain. Cool.
Ki Form (APG /131) is another level 18 feat, one action, turns you into Super Saiyan and let's you add 1d6 Force damage on strikes and 2d6 Force damage just by being nearby.
Now Ethereal Jaunt reads: "You travel to the Ethereal Plane, which overlaps the Material Plane. Material Plane creatures can't see you, and you can move through things on the Material Plane. You move at half your normal Speeds, but can move in any direction (including up and down).
You can see onto the Material Plane within a radius of 60 feet; it is gray, hazy, and concealed from you. You can't affect the Material Plane, and you can't be affected by the Material Plane except by force effects and abjurations originating there."
Does this mean I can only be affected by Force damage or that Force damage is the exception to both ways of "can't affect and be affected"?
Because, if so, I'll Ki Form and Empty Body in one turn and on the next turn, I'm invisible (and enemies can't even use See Invisibility, because I'm not only invisible, I'm ACTUALLY not "there"), and can cause the Force portion of damage for 10 rounds (I'll assume 3 hits plus the "being close hurts" damage for 5d6 per turn) in total safety, unless my enemies have Force attacks AND a way to see into the Ethereal, is it?
And this combo, at level 20, is worth not taking Impossible Technique?
Thanks for the clarification.
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The way Ethereal Jaunt reads, you can't affect anything on the material plane but force effects from the material plane can affect you.
See the follow text portion from the spell:
Force effects and abjurations affect an ethereal creature normally. Their effects extend onto the Ethereal Plane from the Material Plane, but not vice versa. An ethereal creature can’t attack material creatures, and spells you cast while ethereal affect only other ethereal things. Certain material creatures or objects have attacks or effects that work on the Ethereal Plane.
So no, you don't have an invincible force mode. You have a mode where it's really hard for other to see you, but if they have force effects they can totally harm you, and you can't do a darn thing to them.
Ethereal Jaunt good for scouting and getting into places, but not for attacking.
The way Ethereal Jaunt reads, you can't affect anything on the material plane but force effects from the material plane can affect you.
See the follow text portion from the spell:
Force effects and abjurations affect an ethereal creature normally. Their effects extend onto the Ethereal Plane from the Material Plane, but not vice versa. An ethereal creature can’t attack material creatures, and spells you cast while ethereal affect only other ethereal things. Certain material creatures or objects have attacks or effects that work on the Ethereal Plane.So no, you don't have an invincible force mode.
Thank you! Makes more sense this way.
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So I do need to make correction, the text I quoted was from PF1 not PF2.
However the PF2 version says:
You can see onto the Material Plane within a radius of 60 feet; it is gray, hazy, and concealed from you. You can't affect the Material Plane, and you can't be affected by the Material Plane except by force effects and abjurations originating there.