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Man, look what happens to the forums when CS is gutted and CS morale is low. Makes you wish someone would step in and remind everyone to be civil with each other instead of needless bickering.
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Hrmm so is it Lisa Stevens and Jeff the problem. Are they the two managers who fired Sara, forcing Diego to make the choice that he did?
It also seems Lulu, who is going by Lulu (They/Them) now, also quit over a month ago in silence.
Link to Lulu's Twitter
Seemingly over the same problems that plagued Crystal.
Hrmm so is it Lisa Stevens and Jeff the problem. Are they the two managers who fired Sara, forcing Diego to make the choice that he did?
It also seems Lulu, who is going by Lulu (They/Them) now, also quit over a month ago in silence.
Link to Lulu's Twitter
Seemingly over the same problems that plagued Crystal.
LS is mostly not involved with Paizo in a direct capacity anymore.
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Wow if any thread needed Sara Marie or Diego right now, it's this one.
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Um,
So I was a BIG poster on the community here from about 2006-2018, but I've just gotten so busy that I don't really come by much anymore.
Today I was like, 'Man, I haven't been on The Boards in over a year, I'm gonna peruse the Threads!' .... And I found this!
As a big Paizo fan, can someone fill me in on just the salient details, here, please? What were Crystal Frazier's complaints? When did Sara Marie get fired and, since the language being used is "got fired" instead of "left," what was said from Paizo?
Um, what happened?!?
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Um,
So I was a BIG poster on the community here from about 2006-2018, but I've just gotten so busy that I don't really come by much anymore.
Today I was like, 'Man, I haven't been on The Boards in over a year, I'm gonna peruse the Threads!' .... And I found this!
As a big Paizo fan, can someone fill me in on just the salient details, here, please? What were Crystal Frazier's complaints? When did Sara Marie get fired and, since the language being used is "got fired" instead of "left," what was said from Paizo?
Um, what happened?!?
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Um,
So I was a BIG poster on the community here from about 2006-2018, but I've just gotten so busy that I don't really come by much anymore.
Today I was like, 'Man, I haven't been on The Boards in over a year, I'm gonna peruse the Threads!' .... And I found this!
As a big Paizo fan, can someone fill me in on just the salient details, here, please? What were Crystal Frazier's complaints? When did Sara Marie get fired and, since the language being used is "got fired" instead of "left," what was said from Paizo?
Um, what happened?!?
I believe this megathread on the subreddit is the best source.
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You must not be familiar with Jessica's twitter profile. She is not shy about calling people out for their anti-Semitism, intentional or not. If she thinks someone leans toward white nationalism, she'll say so. Her whole thread was examples of management not listening or taking feedback seriously. The occult images are just one more example of that.I think she worded it intentionally the way she did, to have plausible deniability, while still managing to imply it. That's a common tactic for people who gaslight others, and she does it with a handful of things we know about in that statement, like the 'Paizo indebted to the Mob' bit. Its consistent with her behavior re: Arenanet, which we also have the receipts for in terms of how she described something we saw happen firsthand.I trust Erik Mona's statements about his own hobbies and that he isn't a Nazi, and that leads me into noting that Jessica in particular seems to have a tendency of trying to play things up in order to strengthen her position once she's decided her opposition 'deserves it' for opposing her, which is a major red flag for meMy read on Jessica's tweets there was not that she was saying he was a Nazi, but that he was oblivious that people might be bothered by the Nazi-adjacent symbols and occult ideas. And didn't respond well when it was brought up.
It's part of the lousy management complaint more than anything.Remember she still portrays him as the "good one" among the leadership.
Having an Image of Saint German is not same as been a white Nationalist. Her intention was to create doubt on Erik Monas ideas. This is a low move on her part.
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I keep waiting for Sara or Diego to come in and lock this thread.
Oh wait.
Tonya Woolbridge could do that, too, but that would take her away from the precious time spent overseeing the customer service department. In person, physically, of course. Wasting time hunting for sock puppet accounts of some snarky lawyers is bad ROI.
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A lot of very unkind things. Hell of a time to revisit.
I'll say.
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Well... this thread is at peak dumpster fire....
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Having an Image of Saint German is not same as been a white Nationalist. Her intention was to create doubt on Erik Monas ideas. This is a low move on her part.You must not be familiar with Jessica's twitter profile. She is not shy about calling people out for their anti-Semitism, intentional or not. If she thinks someone leans toward white nationalism, she'll say so. Her whole thread was examples of management not listening or taking feedback seriously. The occult images are just one more example of that.I think she worded it intentionally the way she did, to have plausible deniability, while still managing to imply it. That's a common tactic for people who gaslight others, and she does it with a handful of things we know about in that statement, like the 'Paizo indebted to the Mob' bit. Its consistent with her behavior re: Arenanet, which we also have the receipts for in terms of how she described something we saw happen firsthand.I trust Erik Mona's statements about his own hobbies and that he isn't a Nazi, and that leads me into noting that Jessica in particular seems to have a tendency of trying to play things up in order to strengthen her position once she's decided her opposition 'deserves it' for opposing her, which is a major red flag for meMy read on Jessica's tweets there was not that she was saying he was a Nazi, but that he was oblivious that people might be bothered by the Nazi-adjacent symbols and occult ideas. And didn't respond well when it was brought up.
It's part of the lousy management complaint more than anything.Remember she still portrays him as the "good one" among the leadership.
I get it, you only see what you see here.
No. Her point was that when they pointed out that the image was problematic he didn't respond with inclusion in mind according to her. According to him it wasn't a big deal and it is...
Wait. When she points out the connection between Nazism and Theosophy in her post, it is clear that her intention is to create doubts regarding Erik Mona's ideas. only a very cruel or stupid person can believe that the Publisher of Páizo can have any kind of connection with these ideas. You remembered the fact that she has a right to be annoyed, great but where is the right of a person studying the occult to have an image of Saint German? Shall we now forbid people from being able to express their passions due to the ignorance of others? Should I then ask my boss to remove her crucifix as it represents the extermination of my indigenous ancestors?
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Well this thread has devolved into posters arguing with obvious troll who outright says they are here annoying people on purpose and further into arguing about Price's thread as I commented on earlier.
Whether or not Price is acting in bad faith doesn't matter regarding sources who aren't Price. I personally am unable to trust Price because of experiences of posters who had bad experiences with her and because of her previous behavior making it seem like she has grudge versus the company, but I don't see any problem with points collaborated by other sources.