Critical hit effects from the Critical Hit Deck

[Brimfrilo]

So in our campaign we chose to use the critical hit deck. And have come across a simple problem we haven't been able to come to an answer on. There are some cards that specify. 'Fort save or die'. Some undead are immune to death effects but not critical hits. In these cases, does the undead not need a save due to being immune to death effects, or is death effects referring to spells and the like. Some of us feel that the name of the critical being 'split in two' would be unavoidable as it was such an expert strike, yet some eay because the undead is immune to death effects it doesn't matter. Is it down to interpretation or os there a rule I am missing?

[Castilliano]

"Fort save or die" (or anything else for that matter) has nothing to do with a death effect unless it has the Death trait. Death effects aren't simply those that might kill you, but those linked to Death itself, i.e. Vampiric Touch which doesn't even have a death consequence, but is tied to stealing life force.

Master Strike (Rogue 19) or Assassinate (Assassin 12) are examples of effects that can insta-kill, but lack the Death trait. I'd put the critical hit deck's ability in that grouping unless there were unusual circumstances, but all the unusual circumstances I can think of for now are effects undead are immune to for other reasons anyway.

[Brimfrilo]

Thank you for the info, i will pass it along :)

[Alyran]

Castilliano wrote:

"Fort save or die" (or anything else for that matter) has nothing to do with a death effect unless it has the Death trait. Death effects aren't simply those that might kill you, but those linked to Death itself, i.e. Vampiric Touch which doesn't even have a death consequence, but is tied to stealing life force.

Master Strike (Rogue 19) or Assassinate (Assassin 12) are examples of effects that can insta-kill, but lack the Death trait. I'd put the critical hit deck's ability in that grouping unless there were unusual circumstances, but all the unusual circumstances I can think of for now are effects undead are immune to for other reasons anyway.

I just want to note here that Vampiric Touch does have a death consequence through the Death trait itself. The Death trait makes it so that if Vampiric Touch drops you to 0HP, you are killed immediately. Same for any Death traited effect.