Dazzling Display and Bardic performance

[SmooshieBanana]

I have some questions about Dazzling Display and Bardic performance in relation to Satire.
1. Do the penalties given by the demoralization and the satire stack given that they are from two separate abilities? My thoughts were one is utilizing a skill to demoralize, the second is using magical words to magically effect them.
2. If I utilize my bardic satire performance as a standard action the first round, it is a free action to maintain. Along with full-round actions (such as with dazzling display) I can do a free action, so can I do dazzling display while maintaining the performance?

Dazzling Display:

While wielding the weapon in which you have Weapon Focus, you can perform a bewildering show of prowess as a full-round action. Make an Intimidate check to demoralize all foes within 30 feet who can see your display.

Intimidate:

You can use this skill to cause an opponent to become shaken for a number of rounds. This shaken condition doesn’t stack with other shaken conditions to make an affected creature frightened. The DC of this check is equal to 10 + the target’s Hit Dice + the target’s Wisdom modifier.

Success: If you are successful, the target is shaken for one round. This duration increases by 1 round for every 5 by which you beat the DC. You can only threaten an opponent this way if it is within 30 feet and can clearly see and hear you. Using demoralize on the same creature only extends the duration; it does not create a stronger fear condition.

Fail: The opponent is not shaken.

Action Demoralizing an opponent is a standard action.

Retry? You can attempt to intimidate an opponent again, but each additional check increases the DC by +5. This increase resets after one hour has passed.

Satire:

A court bard can use performance to undermine the confidence of enemies who hear it, causing them to take a –1 penalty on attack and damage rolls (minimum 1) and a –1 penalty on saves against fear and charm effects as long as the bard continues performing. This penalty increases by –1 at 5th level and every six levels thereafter. Satire is a language-dependent, mind-affecting ability that uses audible components.

Bardic Performance:

A bard is trained to use the Perform skill to create magical effects on those around him, including himself if desired. He can use this ability for a number of rounds per day equal to 4 + his Charisma modifier. At each level after 1st a bard can use bardic performance for 2 additional rounds per day. Each round, the bard can produce any one of the types of bardic performance that he has mastered, as indicated by his level.

Starting a bardic performance is a standard action, but it can be maintained each round as a free action. Changing a bardic performance from one effect to another requires the bard to stop the previous performance and start a new one as a standard action. A bardic performance cannot be disrupted, but it ends immediately if the bard is killed, paralyzed, stunned, knocked unconscious, or otherwise prevented from taking a free action to maintain it each round. A bard cannot have more than one bardic performance in effect at one time.

At 7th level, a bard can start a bardic performance as a move action instead of a standard action. At 13th level, a bard can start a bardic performance as a swift action.

Each bardic performance has audible components, visual components, or both.

If a bardic performance has audible components, the targets must be able to hear the bard for the performance to have any effect, and many such performances are language dependent (as noted in the description). A deaf bard has a 20% chance to fail when attempting to use a bardic performance with an audible component. If he fails this check, the attempt still counts against his daily limit. Deaf creatures are immune to bardic performances with audible components.

If a bardic performance has a visual component, the targets must have line of sight to the bard for the performance to have any effect. A blind bard has a 50% chance to fail when attempting to use a bardic performance with a visual component. If he fails this check, the attempt still counts against his daily limit. Blind creatures are immune to bardic performances with visual components.

[MrCharisma]

1. Yup they stack.
2. Yup that action economy looks good.

[Smiles-a-lot]

Agree^^ Yes and yes.

[Name Violation]

FYI dazzling display is best when gained threw the cavalier order of the cockatrice.

its only a standard action and doesn't require a weapon or weapon focus.

[SmooshieBanana]

Great, thanks for the confirmation!

Name Violation wrote:

FYI dazzling display is best when gained through the cavalier order of the cockatrice.

its only a standard action and doesn't require a weapon or weapon focus.

Yeah. I actually was restricted to core classes for choices but was allowed any archetype from Paizo materials, so I couldn't choose a cavalier. I don't mind doing it this way. I wanted to take weapon focus anyway.

[MrCharisma]

I really like DREADFUL CARNAGE, it's expensive feat-wise - you have to already want Power Attack at least - but there's no action better than a Free action.

(maybe not on a Bard, level 15 is pretty late in the game)