Leap off mount.


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From what I can tell, mount is a one action maneuver that is used to get on or off whatever you want to ride. Is there a skill or feat that would let one get do it without spending an action? Even just some way to leap off but not on for free, such as an acrobatics check to just use some movement? What happens if your mount is killed from under you?


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Nope.

GM's discretion, but ending up prone seems pretty reasonable to me.


Yeah, there is currently nothing that I know of.

A reasonable feat in the future seems like it would be making a check (Acrobatics or Athletics maybe) to quickly dismount and move up to your speed as a single action.


a work around is Quick Jump feat and "jumping" with the same 1 action cost as dismounting to up to your speed away from the mount (with a good enough check that is)..


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I would recommend talking to your GM first about whether using Quick Jump from a position of sitting on your mount is even possible without some preparatory action, rather than just expecting that to work.


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Indeed, there is no canned action for this. I dealt with this by creating a "custom action".

CRB PG. 462 "Other Actions" wrote:


Sometimes you need to attempt something not already
covered by defined actions in the game. When this happens,
the rules tell you how many actions you need to spend, as
well any traits your action might have. For example, a spell
that lets you switch targets might say you can do so “by
spending a single action, which has the concentrate trait.”
Game masters can also use this approach when a character
tries to do something that isn’t covered in the rules.

The character in question had Ride and the backstory made them basically a horse master, so I gave him some leeway and allowed him to just Jump from the horse without spending an action to "dismount".

If the character hadn't been so equinely inclined, I may have required him to spend both actions, but allowed him to effectively Leap from the square of the horse, rather than whichever square he decided to dismount to.

Grand Lodge

Mellack wrote:
Is there a skill or feat that would let one get do it without spending an action?

The mount could drop you as a free action like a character drops a weapon. :-D

Grand Lodge

TwilightKnight wrote:
Mellack wrote:
Is there a skill or feat that would let one get do it without spending an action?
The mount could drop you as a free action like a character drops a weapon. :-D

It's not free - standard action by rider to command the mount - reaction by the mount - off course you can always forgo your reflex save:

Bestiary 1, p.342 wrote:

Buck [reaction] Most monsters that serve as mounts can attempt to buck off unwanted or annoying riders, but most mounts will not use this reaction against a trusted creature unless the mounts are spooked or mistreated. Trigger A creature Mounts or uses the Command an Animal action while riding the monster. Effect The triggering creature must succeed at a Reflex saving throw against the listed DC or fall off the creature and land prone. If the save is a critical failure, the triggering creature also takes 1d6 bludgeoning damage in addition to the normal damage for the fall.

Grand Lodge

Okay, first of all my comment was a joke. See that emoticon. It has meaning.

Second, if you want to get technical, an argument could be made that the rider is being worn by the mount. (See the new storage rules). In that case, you could spend an action to grant your mount two actions, including the free action “drop an item.” I wouldn’t approve this methodology in my game, but then again I don’t have a player wanting to get a free dismount. I’m merely theorycrafting an argument using the rules as they exist before moving on to a house rule that could conflict with other rules in an unforeseen way. But, I’m not going to argue with anyone about the idea. It is just for the OP to consider and dismiss or use as he sees fit. Enjoy

Grand Lodge

@TwilightKnight - I did see the emoticon at the end - but a lot of readers don't. And there are actually a few ways how to handle it with existing rules.

1) I mentioned the buck - it is a reaction. Cost - character 1 action to induce the buck, mount one reaction

2) Drop as a free action actually could work - in a certain way. If you have a 'large mount' like an ancient dragon or a Roc he might have you grabbed in his mouths/claws. In this case the 'rider' suffers the disadvantage of being grappled - but the drop (possibly from quite a height) would be free. There are issues in 2e with moving while you grapple someone else though ...

3) Leap was mentioned. Leap is a jump with auto-success without a running start. So if you are a performer in a circus (Extinction Curse) you could ride while standing on the saddle (or even standing without a saddle).

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