Summon and Support materia (like All) definitely work the way I describe, I just couldn't remember if Magic materia followed the same rule. I'd probably still use a /per day structure for materia implemented the way we're talking about. It's a cleaner balance and characters in PF2 have stronger base chassis' than the characters in OG FF7.
No, you can cast a spell from a materia as long as you have enough MP to do so. The number of stars just adds extra/more powerful spells (so a 2 star fire materia would allow you to cast fire and fire2/fira).
Sorry, I thought we were just talking about magic materia given the context.
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Sorry, I thought we were just talking about magic materia given the context.Summon and Support materia (like All) definitely work the way I describe, I just couldn't remember if Magic materia followed the same rule. I'd probably still use a /per day structure for materia implemented the way we're talking about. It's a cleaner balance and characters in PF2 have stronger base chassis' than the characters in OG FF7.
No, you can cast a spell from a materia as long as you have enough MP to do so. The number of stars just adds extra/more powerful spells (so a 2 star fire materia would allow you to cast fire and fire2/fira).
Oh, no worries. With 5+ different types of materia in the reference game and no actual example of the thing we're talking about, it's all kind of "mushy". Regardless of how you handled it, a proper materia system that jives with PF2 would need to be reworked and reimagined along one angle or another; I was more looking at the angle of the discussion where the question had been posed about whether a per day type talisman could mimic FF7 materia. The fully correct answer to which is "It would accurately mimic certain types of materia but not others, though it would likely be a good framework for establishing a materia subsystem for your gaming group."
I think I'd probably want a single materia framework where they all work the same way but cover effects that came from different types of materia in FF.
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For me, Ki Form wins hands down.
For me, Ki Form wins hands down.
I think it would be really hard to argue against this one. I agree.
Oh, I agree on the Ki Form. I just wanted a proper acknowledgement of a certain a assassination martial art.
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I don't think you'd even need to do any reflavoring. We've got Wild Winds Initiate for a Spirit Gun, too. You can flurry with it for Double Spirit Gun, and there's also Wild Winds Gust for Spirit Shotgun. Admittedly, why only choose one set of feats or the other, when you can have both?I was inspired to write Ki Form while watching Yu Yu Hakusho and then Mark leaned into adding some Dragon Ball Z inspired flavor to it, so I think that Ki Form actually wins the "most anime feat" contest.
But Path of Iron is pretty sweet.
YuYu Hakusho was my first manga ever.
If I ever do a monk, my Ki Blast will be fluffed like "Spirit Gun", and I might do a Duskwalker... :P
Niiiice. I have yet to read the Monk, so didn't know about these. Thanks! :O