I have a wizard (in PFS) who recently caught access to a feat that makes him trained in the DCs and spell attack rolls of a spell school (not arcane). (Keeping it vague to not spoil the scenario.)
Would that allow my wizard to use magic items that activate spells of that spell school, e.g. scroll of heal if the spell school is divine? Not quite sure where in the rules to look that up.
iirc you are automatically trained in the use of items of every kind of magic in which you are trained in dc and spell roll
I last looked that up an if I don't f*ck up the wording completely it enables you (for example) to use wands of heal as a paladin
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I have a wizard (in PFS) who recently caught access to a feat that makes him trained in the DCs and spell attack rolls of a spell school (not arcane). (Keeping it vague to not spoil the scenario.)
Would that allow my wizard to use magic items that activate spells of that spell school, e.g. scroll of heal if the spell school is divine? Not quite sure where in the rules to look that up.
No. To be able to use a scroll, the spell needs to be in your spell list. So, unless you also gain access to a spell list, you won't be able to use scrolls.
But how would you gain access to a spell list?
Let's take the cleric archetype as an example. Nowhere does it say you gain access to the divine spell list. Does it mean that even if I pick up the cleric dedication at level 2, I wouldn't be able to use a scroll of heal?
But how would you gain access to a spell list?
Let's take the cleric archetype as an example. Nowhere does it say you gain access to the divine spell list. Does it mean that even if I pick up the cleric dedication at level 2, I wouldn't be able to use a scroll of heal?
It says right in there.
Ah, there it is.
A spellcasting archetype allows you to use scrolls, staves, and wands in the same way that a member of a spellcasting class can.
So it looks like the only way to gain access to the spell list of another spell school (and thus use items like scrolls, wands and staves) is through a spellcasting archetype.
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Ah, there it is.
A spellcasting archetype allows you to use scrolls, staves, and wands in the same way that a member of a spellcasting class can.So it looks like the only way to gain access to the spell list of another spell school (and thus use items like scrolls, wands and staves) is through a spellcasting archetype.
You can also use the Trick Magic Item feat to use scrolls and wands (staves are debatable), and already being trained would help (assuming you aren't already Master+ in the relevant skill, at which point the feat gives you a trained or better bonus).
Core Rulebook pg. 268 1.1 ...Source
If you activate a magic item that requires a spell attack roll or spell DC and you don’t have the ability to cast spells of the relevant tradition, use your level as your proficiency bonus and the highest of your Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma modifiers. If you’re a master in the appropriate skill for the item’s tradition, you instead use the trained proficiency bonus, and if you’re legendary, you instead use the expert proficiency bonus.
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Really, it sounds like the feat you gained access to is just 'mostly useless'
