Legendary Kineticist


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i am one of several GM's in a game none of us have experience playing as a Kineticist, let alone as a legendary one, is it OP

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As an entirely impartial observer, no. No it is not.


stormborn125 wrote:
i am one of several GM's in a game none of us have experience playing as a Kineticist, let alone as a legendary one, is it OP

It's kind of hard to answer. Original flavor Kineticist can be very strong, even overshadowing other players. Especially at low levels or if the others are inexperienced. In a group of total optimizers, it keeps up in the areas its good at (usually damage and 1 or 2 other things) and is rather helpless otherwise. Not unlike a martial class but with some very, very neat tricks.

I've found almost all of the Legendary classes I've read to be a straight up upgrade in power, so you'll want to keep in mind who you're playing with. If you're playing legendary, the other martials at minimum should be too.

I'm not the biggest fan of 3pp material but what I've read of Legendary is decent.


I just skimmed it, but the changes are pretty minor. It mostly just makes Burn slightly less of a hassle. Overall, I’d say it’s a little stronger than regular kineticist, but not to a broken degree. It stays firmly in its tier.


What are the differences between the two? Also how does this version's of burn work?

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It's over on the SoP wiki.


So are there Legendary versions of all the Pathfinder classes? Any differences with the legendary version of the Sorcerer? Shifter?

Shadow Lodge

Legendary versions were for classes that were considered badly designed. I think only Kineticist and Shifter got the treatment.


Wander over to giantitp and you may see the playtest version of the legendary bard. A cunning google may find you playtest versions of older legendary games classes there.

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Dragon78 wrote:
So are there Legendary versions of all the Pathfinder classes? Any differences with the legendary version of the Sorcerer? Shifter?

There's L. versions of a few classes. I myself penned Kineticist, Gunslinger, Shifter, Cavalier, and Alchemist. I'm working on Wizard as we speak.

Sorcerer is still cooking right now, but if you're on the LG discord, you could ask about it there.

Dragonborn3 wrote:
Legendary versions were for classes that were considered badly designed. I think only Kineticist and Shifter got the treatment.

This is half true; I really like the alchemist as a class, but I think the base chassis had issues that needed to be done from the ground up, so I worked on legendary alchemist to make the kind of class that I thought people who loved it deserved.

Shadow Lodge

Oh very nice! I had only ever heard of L. Kineticist and Shifter.


I only noticed minor changes to the kineticist, how different are the other ones from the their original versions?

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