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Hm.
I liked the second D&D movie.
I liked the second and third ones; for what they were. I expect the E1 version to be a different animal. Im curious to hear about casting!
"Swords, not words!"
I want Minsc, Alias, Erevis Cale, Storm Silverhand and maybe even Jander Sunstar. But that's just my pipe dreams...
You're going to get a reskinned Peter Quill, Gomorrah, Drax, Groot, and rocket Racoon.
They got the guys from horrible bosses and game night working on it...
To be fair, they're also the guys and the producer who wrote Spider-Man: Homecoming, which was solid. If they bring that attitude to the film, it should be fine. If they bring the Game Night/Horrible Bosses sensibility to it, not so much.
It does seem odd they are not tapping anyone with a known history in the SFF genre or roleplaying space though.
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They got the guys from horrible bosses and game night working on it...To be fair, they're also the guys and the producer who wrote Spider-Man: Homecoming, which was solid. If they bring that attitude to the film, it should be fine.
Weren't they part of a team of writers on Spiderman Homecoming and not the sole producers?
If they bring the Game Night/Horrible Bosses sensibility to it, not so much.
On the contrary, I thought both Horrible Bosses and Game Night were good ensemble films. They did a good job of giving the viewer just enough info for a small group to go through a fun caper story. These films downside is they are quickly forgettable and nothing special, however, this might be just the right idea to launch D&D. Let folks wet their beak in the shallow end of the D&D pool before wading into the deep end.
It does seem odd they are not tapping anyone with a known history in the SFF genre or roleplaying space though.
I'd argue this is a good choice. Better not to get too lost in the weeds on an intro product for the mass movie going public. They wont understand who the hell Drizzzit is and what Forgettable Realms means. That needs to be built out before they can really drink deep from the D&D fiction well.
You're going to get a reskinned Peter Quill, Gomorrah, Drax, Groot, and rocket Racoon.
That seems...terrible for a D&D movie.
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You're going to get a reskinned Peter Quill, Gomorrah, Drax, Groot, and rocket Racoon.That seems...terrible for a D&D movie.
Is it really that much of a stretch? GotG is basically space D&D.
Yes because Thanos isn't a lich, a dragon or even a god. He's Thanos.
Guardians of the Galaxy is actually a great example.
With the wrong director or casting and that movie goes from one of greats to completely unwatchable.
Yes because Thanos isn't a lich, a dragon or even a god. He's Thanos.
This is a distinction the mass movie going public isnt going to care about.
Yeah, that's my expectation - try to imitate that "formula" and you'll most likely get drek.Guardians of the Galaxy is actually a great example.
With the wrong director or casting and that movie goes from one of greats to completely unwatchable.
There are many pitfalls laid before the new team here. Copy the GotG template too closely and you look like a bad clone. Dont understand the nuances that makes it work, and you have a flop in the making. I dont envy them.
Yes because Thanos isn't a lich, a dragon or even a god. He's Thanos.This is a distinction the mass movie going public isnt going to care about.
That may be! However as a fan of Donny Cates' work on Thanos arcs (IE Thanos Wins)...it's just the nerd inside me saying "This isn't D&D. This is Marvel."
I'm not sure I'm ready to pull a Zack Snyder...
Look to other good franchise-starters for how it should be done:
A New Hope - Good stand-alone movie, hints at a wider setting without overwhelming the uninitiated, fully-enclosed plot but with a clear opening to go further if successful (Death Star destroyed, but Empire still out there)
Iron Man - Good stand-alone movie, hints at a wider setting without overwhelming the uninitiated, fully-enclosed plot but with a clear opening to go further if successful (Ironmonger defeated, 10 Rings beaten back (although still out there), "the Avengers initiative")
As opposed to, say, the DCEU or the Dark Universe that tried to ram the franchise out too quickly, and the kick-off movies suffered greatly for it. Then, there are the countless franchises that, while not ramming the wider setting in, just didn't make a good stand-alone movie to begin with. (Either a premature launch or failure to launch)
I agree, making a good stand alone movie should be priority number 1.
It will be interesting to see how the latest Dune plays out. That is an epic story wrapped in tons of world building. D&D has the luxury of tons of world building without one story to rule them all. That should be an advantage as long as they dont try and explain too much in one movie.
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It's not the world-building in the sense of setting--history & people & places (unless it's going to be set in FR or one of the other established worlds). It's character capabilities and expectations. They could have a generic EFP world, and would still be advised to include only a few classes and monsters. Basically, they need to think about the movie the way that they'd approach introducing a new player to the game.
It's not the world-building in the sense of setting--history & people & places (unless it's going to be set in FR or one of the other established worlds). It's character capabilities and expectations. They could have a generic EFP world, and would still be advised to include only a few classes and monsters. Basically, they need to think about the movie the way that they'd approach introducing a new player to the game.
That is sort of what I was getting at. Dune requires a lot of background to make the story work and D&D doesnt have that issue. Though, if they try and dig too deep into D&D lore, they will loose people in the details.
Well they might if they have Orcus and Demogorgon fight in the second movie..