If the wand of longstrider is broken, just buy scrolls of it.Lol ya I did that, he said "do you think I'm dumb?"
?? It is not even an uncommon spell, you can prepare and craft your own items easily as is a low level spell.
How can you prohibit that? Even game designers don't consider it as is not uncommon, and is so easy to get the effect anyway.About scouting, I was thinking about reducing 2 the creatures perception, they are indeed high, always with Perception maximized like if all them was a Ranger (which players cannot do).
But then I realized that you usually use covers, and the scouting process is supposed to be that way. Remember that with cover we get +2 to hide and sneak, and using the taking cover can change it to greater cover for a +4, which you can also get by crawl if there is no much cover.
Think that this way is realistic as corresponds to how is done really, that is crawling and using any cover actively, without covers is really harder to scout inadvertently. So how the player scouts is very important instead only using raw numbers and a single die roll.
Anyway this doesn't change the fact that the creature perception could be a bit too high and if not justified (i.e. animals with improved senses) could be reduced a proficiency tier.
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The GM can prohibit whatever he likes.
Common or not.
The GM can prohibit whatever he likes.
Common or not.
A GM could ban all core classes, or only allow characters he builds for others, or ban any feat that is accessible at a level that is a multiple of 4 (i.e., 4,8,12,16,20).
Being a GM doesn't suddenly prevent you from being irrational or overbearing.
Or allow only dwarves :)
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Or allow only dwarves :)
Mono cultured games can make sense for some custom campaigns. I think it can force people to think a bit beyond the stereotypes. Putting guard rails on characters can also help people to be more creative.
Or allow only dwarves :)The GM can prohibit whatever he likes.
Common or not.
A GM could ban all core classes, or only allow characters he builds for others, or ban any feat that is accessible at a level that is a multiple of 4 (i.e., 4,8,12,16,20).
Being a GM doesn't suddenly prevent you from being irrational or overbearing.
...and then ban each of their ancestry feats individually.
on the matter of longstrider... I do notice that there have been at least a few cases (ancestry feats, mostly) where I've said "well, this looks interesting and/or useful as an option" and gotten back the response of "Lol. It's worthless. Just use a longstrider wand." So I can at least sympathize with the idea that the spell might be a bit much.
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I'd actually recommend alchemical items for pre-buffing. Many alchemical items, like elixirs, mutagens, poisons, etc. have either a long duration for their level or last until used (bombs, poisons, etc.).
Not to reinforce the idea that Alchemists are just fantasy vending machines, but they REALLY can buff the party in a variety of ways relatively cheaply.
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I do think PF2 could do with some kind of improvement to scouting ahead. It's not an unreasonable fantasy to want to play. The scout that goes ahead, spots some enemies, and tells the rest of the party what to prep for. That's a reasonable fantasy trope. But it doesn't play out very well in PF2.You can mitigate the risks by scouting with magic, but that's not really satisfying, is it? If you play a rogue or ranger it'd be nice if you could do it yourself, and that it wasn't a stupid risk. Or maybe that the witch can let their familiar do it.
I think a well-balanced "scout ahead carefully and report back" exploration activity is kinda missing in the system right now.
I think a certain amount of the scouting gap is people not following the stealth rules properly in ways that hurt the player. Examples:
-Not applying the cover bonus for Avoid Notice and Stealth for initiative.
-Letting NPCs spot PCs based on the enemy's perception for initiative result instead of solely the PC's stealth to initiative result.
-Overlooking that on a regular failure to Avoid Notice your character is still hidden. It is possible to fail at Avoid Notice but retreat before you're ever actually Observed.
-Not thinking critically about how what the positioning of a PC Avoiding Notice would be (ie, that it usually requires being in the opposite side of cover.)
I also think people forget how important darkvision and scent are if you want to scout at all. You basically have to choose them at 1st level to get them as constant benefits. You can't avoid triggering encounters without darkvision in many typical dungeon environments. And people overlook how precise an imprecise sense actually is. Scent is basically radar which doesn't necessarily require line of sight or effect. It is also possible to Recall Knowldge off of smell, probably using a hard or very hard adjustmdent. Adventure writing and most GMs assume typical human level of senses, but the Scent ability is more akin to how a dog smells things. There's an incredible amount of information which scents convey to animals. If it wasn't possible to recognize a tiger by scent, tigers wouldn't bother marking their territory.
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If you feel that breaks the game maybe it could be less radical just remove the heighten for Longstrider, so you can only cast 1 hour version.
Overlooking that on a regular failure to Avoid Notice your character is still hidden. It is possible to fail at Avoid Notice but retreat before you're ever actually Observed.
Where is that stated? I didn't see it mentioned under Avoid Notice.
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Overlooking that on a regular failure to Avoid Notice your character is still hidden. It is possible to fail at Avoid Notice but retreat before you're ever actually Observed.Where is that stated? I didn't see it mentioned under Avoid Notice.
Avoid Notice uses the same rules for Hide and Sneak, and Sneak says:
Failure A telltale sound or other sign gives your position away, though you still remain unseen. You’re hidden from the creature throughout your movement and remain so.
Critical Failure You’re spotted! You’re observed by the creature throughout your movement and remain so. If you’re invisible and were hidden from the creature, instead of being observed you’re hidden throughout your movement and remain so.
I remember this because it was a rule Mark added based off my suggestion from the playtest. :) It's the Morgan clause.
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Or allow only dwarves :)The GM can prohibit whatever he likes.
Common or not.
A GM could ban all core classes, or only allow characters he builds for others, or ban any feat that is accessible at a level that is a multiple of 4 (i.e., 4,8,12,16,20).
Being a GM doesn't suddenly prevent you from being irrational or overbearing.
...and then ban each of their ancestry feats individually.
on the matter of longstrider... I do notice that there have been at least a few cases (ancestry feats, mostly) where I've said "well, this looks interesting and/or useful as an option" and gotten back the response of "Lol. It's worthless. Just use a longstrider wand." So I can at least sympathize with the idea that the spell might be a bit much.
IMO Longstrider isn't really broken it just reflects how the designers deal with move speeds in the game.
Move speed is practically the only resource that can be pretty easily stackable and that there's many ways to improve it. The impression that I have about it is that designers want that most players don't need to use 2-actions to move pretty frequently and then they give them many ways to get more speed if they need.
One way to fix Longstrider in your GMs eyes might be telling them that intelligent enemies with spellcasting can also make good use of it.
As long as mandatory buffs go, I think this one is a lesser evil at best.