My female elf monk uses the Befriend A Local downtime activity one time and now she's got a reputation!
Critical failures are so not cool. I'm sure the blacksmith's son will heal quickly at least. He's a strong lad. But how do I restore my character's rep? How can I fix this?
Is the Befriend a Local activity a homebrew thing? I can't find it anywhere. Regardless, I like the sound of it.
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Is the Befriend a Local activity a homebrew thing? I can't find it anywhere. Regardless, I like the sound of it.
It's in the Age of Ashes Player's Guide (which is freely available for download here), and presumably, in the Age of Ashes adventure path as well.
CONCENTRATE | DOWNTIME | LINGUISTIC
You spend the day in the company of an NPC whose companionship you value in order to strengthen the bonds of your friendship with them. You can always roll a Diplomacy check to determine your degree of success when you try to Befriend a Local, but you can instead attempt another skill check of your choice to engage that NPC in an area of expertise they might be interested in. For example, if you seek to befriend a local smith, you could instead roll a Crafting check to make friends. Or if you seek to befriend an herbalist, you could attempt a Medicine check or a Nature check. As you interact with an NPC, you might discover other personality traits that suggest other skill check options—for example, after a few days of chatting with a local hunter you might learn that they have a deep appreciation of music, allowing you to attempt a Performance check to befriend them. If you elect to attempt a skill check other than Diplomacy, your GM will decide if the check you chose is applicable—if not, the outcome of your check is one degree of success worse. Regardless of the skill you choose, the DC is 20.
Critical Success You befriend the NPC, and that NPC particularly favors your company. If the NPC is a merchant, goods and services purchased from them are discounted by 10% rather than 5%. If the NPC is not a merchant, their friendship instead grants you a +1 circumstance bonus to Diplomacy checks you attempt as part of downtime activities in Breachill, as long as they favor you. These benefits are permanent, as long as you don’t take actions that jeopardize this friendship (as determined by the GM). Once you have permanently gained an NPC’s favor in this way, the GM might decide the NPC helps you in other ways as well.
Success Per critical success, except the NPC’s favor lasts for a number of weeks equal to your Charisma modifier (minimum of 1 week).
Failure The NPC does not favor you.
Critical Failure The NPC is offended or insulted by something you did. You no longer gain the effects of an ongoing success or critical success with that NPC, and the DC to use Befriend a Local with that NPC in the future increases by 5.
I rolled a 1. According to the GM I "broke" the blacksmith's son and developed something of a "reputation" for promiscuity.
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I rolled a 1. According to the GM I "broke" the blacksmith's son and developed something of a "reputation" for promiscuity.
That's pretty sexist. I had thought Golarion was largely free of the Madonna-Whore Dichotomy that afflicts so much of the Earth.
I do not see anything written in that action about developing a reputation, nor do I see anything about wooing them in any way.
What was the check you used to befriend the blacksmiths son? The failure just says that you offended the NPC you attempted the check on and nothing about harming or developing a reputation outside of what that one NPC thinks of you. Even if you attempted to seduce him specifically I do not see how you could gain some kind of reputation about it. This seems like poor GMing and not an issue with rules.
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Serious answer: Go for that Befriend a Local activity again, but against that raised DC. Maybe put some points into Blacksmith Lore if you really want to roleplay hard.
Personal Anecdote: I have a cleric player in my game who crit failed twice during Befriend an NPC, and his NPCs were each members of the faith in the AoA town, Breachill. It has been a blast roleplaying this cleric of Abadar/Kalisocrat somewhat shunned by Desna and Shelyn worshipers in town. Or as my player puts it:
"I was giving a sermon on trickle down economics and then suddenly everyone got all mad!"
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I rolled a 1. According to the GM I "broke" the blacksmith's son and developed something of a "reputation" for promiscuity.That's pretty sexist. I had thought Golarion was largely free of the Madonna-Whore Dichotomy that afflicts so much of the Earth.
Developing a reputation for promiscuity is not sexist if it can occur in both sexes equally, as it easily could even in Golarion. :P
Golarion's reputation of being "free of the Madonna-Whore Dichotomy" as well as other real-world social problems is exactly the reason why I bothered making this thread at all. I figured it'd have the potential to be almost as funny as that "Grappling a Succubus" thread. XD
I do not see anything written in that action about developing a reputation, nor do I see anything about wooing them in any way.
What was the check you used to befriend the blacksmiths son? The failure just says that you offended the NPC you attempted the check on and nothing about harming or developing a reputation outside of what that one NPC thinks of you. Even if you attempted to seduce him specifically I do not see how you could gain some kind of reputation about it. This seems like poor GMing and not an issue with rules.
lol. We're not robots who adhere to the rules as strictly as programming code. I roleplayed it as more of a seduction than a friendship. That still fits in with the making friends in return for incidental favors context, right? Rather than shutting me down saying "I do not see anything written in that section about wooing" the GM went with it, making the game more fun and immersive for everyone involved. We're all adults and such things don't necessarily have the Uncommon trait at our table.
The check I used was Athletics since, being a monk, I happen to be quite good at that skill, and because my efforts involved *ahem* a vigorous bout of physical labor.
The reputation bit is mostly just roleplay, and has nothing really to do with mechanics (aside from the critical failure text above), so I'm primarily looking for a roleplay solution.
Serious answer: Go for that Befriend a Local activity again, but against that raised DC. Maybe put some points into Blacksmith Lore if you really want to roleplay hard.
Personal Anecdote: I have a cleric player in my game who crit failed twice during Befriend an NPC, and his NPCs were each members of the faith in the AoA town, Breachill. It has been a blast roleplaying this cleric of Abadar/Kalisocrat somewhat shunned by Desna and Shelyn worshipers in town. Or as my player puts it:
"I was giving a sermon on trickle down economics and then suddenly everyone got all mad!"
*chuckles* That's pretty funny.
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But how do I restore my character's rep? How can I fix this?
Seduce all the people who think you're promiscuous. Then they won't be able to criticise you without looking like hypocrites.
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Developing a reputation for promiscuity is not sexist if it can occur in both sexes equally, as it easily could even in Golarion. :PGolarion's reputation of being "free of the Madonna-Whore Dichotomy" as well as other real-world social problems is exactly the reason why I bothered making this thread at all. I figured it'd have the potential to be almost as funny as that "Grappling a Succubus" thread. XD
Yeah, this isn't 2010 anymore, though, so not sure how "funny" this thread is going to be. It's not off to a great start, that's for sure.
I rolled a 1. According to the GM I "broke" the blacksmith's son and developed something of a "reputation" for promiscuity.That's pretty sexist. I had thought Golarion was largely free of the Madonna-Whore Dichotomy that afflicts so much of the Earth.
If Raving Dork's character was specifically trying to seduce the blacksmith's son then it's reasonable for the GM of his game to go down this path.
Remember it's the GMs world, and Paizo has nothing to do with how it plays out. What happens in James Jacob's Golarion isn't what happens in RD's GM's world.
But honestly, I think this is funny. You crit failed to seduce, and not the town knows about your promiscuity.
Get through it by working to make friends with the town despite that set back, and show that you're a good, helpful, and friendly person to members of the town and they will forget about negative actions.
You crit failed to seduce
I don't see anything that indicates Ravingdork was trying to seduce.
That's why some of us don't find it funny, it seems like the GM couldn't fathom a female character attempting to befriend a male one without it becoming sexual.
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You crit failed to seduceI don't see anything that indicates Ravingdork was trying to seduce.
In this post.
I roleplayed it as more of a seduction than a friendship.
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Yeah. Totally a seduction. She had an itch that needed to be scratched.
She's not promiscuous though. She's just your typical aloof-seeming elf. Their physiology is different. They only get the itch once in a blue moon (according to Critical Failures at least, which I recommend as comedy gold, provided you're not easily offended). It's not like she makes a habit of jumping everyone she meets or anything.
That's Pon Farr. ;)
lol. I suppose so. It would be just like Critical Failures to steal a crazy idea like that.
Sorry. Went right over my head. I thought it was a legitimate typo.
Things could have turned out worse,no one came down with goblin pox...
Or did they?
You crit failed to seduceI don't see anything that indicates Ravingdork was trying to seduce.
That's why some of us don't find it funny, it seems like the GM couldn't fathom a female character attempting to befriend a male one without it becoming sexual.
So as confirmed, RD played it as more seduction that friendship. It's seems a rather pointed way to take a crit failure and make it interesting.