Spiritual Weapon: which spells and effects do affect it?


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Silver Crusade

Given the following FAQ:

FAQ wrote:

Ray: Do rays count as weapons for the purpose of spells and effects that affect weapons?

Yes. (See also this FAQ item for a similar question about rays and weapon feats.)

For example, a bard's inspire courage says it affects "weapon damage rolls," which is worded that way so don't try to add the bonus to a spell like fireball. However, rays are treated as weapons, whether they're from spells, a monster ability, a class ability, or some other source, so the inspire courage bonus applies to ray attack rolls and ray damage rolls.

The same rule applies to weapon-like spells such as flame blade, mage's sword, and spiritual weapon--effects that affect weapons work on these spells.

Which spells do affect it? Here is a short list:

- Divine Favor (on the caster)
- Haste (on the caster)
- (Greater) Magic Weapon (on the Spiritual Weapon)
- Instrument of Agony (on the Spiritual Weapon)

Additionally, does the caster's Size modifier affect the Spiritual Weapon's attack roll?

Silver Crusade

Any ideas?


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Gray Warden wrote:

Given the following FAQ:

...

Which spells do affect it? Here is a short list:

- Divine Favor (on the caster)
- Haste (on the caster)
- (Greater) Magic Weapon (on the Spiritual Weapon)
- Instrument of Agony (on the Spiritual Weapon)

Additionally, does the caster's Size modifier affect the Spiritual Weapon's attack roll?

Spiritual Weapon: It strikes as a spell, not as a weapon

Inspire Courage: +1 competence bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls -- Adds to attack, but not damage since Spiritual Weapon is a spell and not a weapon.
Divine Favor: +1 luck bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls -- Adds to attack, but not damage since Spiritual Weapon is a spell and not a weapon.
Haste: +1 bonus on attack rolls -- Adds to attack but not damage, and does not grant an extra attack to the Spiritual Weapon.
(Greater) Magic-Weapon: Target weapon touched & Target one weapon -- Since Spiritual Weapon is not a weapon, these spells do not apply.
Instrument of Agony: Target weapon touched -- Since Spiritual Weapon is not a weapon, these spells do not apply.

The spell Summon Ancestral Guardian, however, states: deal physical damage (bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing, according to the weapon the spirit wields) instead of force damage. could be argued to be weapon damage.

/cevah


Cevah wrote:
Gray Warden wrote:

Given the following FAQ:

...

Which spells do affect it? Here is a short list:

- Divine Favor (on the caster)
- Haste (on the caster)
- (Greater) Magic Weapon (on the Spiritual Weapon)
- Instrument of Agony (on the Spiritual Weapon)

Additionally, does the caster's Size modifier affect the Spiritual Weapon's attack roll?

Spiritual Weapon: It strikes as a spell, not as a weapon

Inspire Courage: +1 competence bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls -- Adds to attack, but not damage since Spiritual Weapon is a spell and not a weapon.
Divine Favor: +1 luck bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls -- Adds to attack, but not damage since Spiritual Weapon is a spell and not a weapon.
Haste: +1 bonus on attack rolls -- Adds to attack but not damage, and does not grant an extra attack to the Spiritual Weapon.
(Greater) Magic-Weapon: Target weapon touched & Target one weapon -- Since Spiritual Weapon is not a weapon, these spells do not apply.
Instrument of Agony: Target weapon touched -- Since Spiritual Weapon is not a weapon, these spells do not apply.

The spell Summon Ancestral Guardian, however, states: deal physical damage (bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing, according to the weapon the spirit wields) instead of force damage. could be argued to be weapon damage.

/cevah

Given the bolded part of the faq, spiritual weapon would benefit from bardic inspiration as they called out. This could also mean that bonuses to the caster's attack and damage from spells like Haste and Divine Favor could also apply, though spells such as Greater Magic Weapon, Instrument of Agony and Weapon of Awe would not work, as they target a specific weapon and not the caster.


Divine Favor states: The bonus doesn’t apply to spell damage. No change for this spell.
Haste does not give a damage bonus.
Weapon of Awe: Targets weapon touched -- Since Spiritual Weapon is not a weapon, these spells do not apply.

/cevah


Cevah wrote:

Divine Favor states: The bonus doesn’t apply to spell damage. No change for this spell.

Haste does not give a damage bonus.
Weapon of Awe: Targets weapon touched -- Since Spiritual Weapon is not a weapon, these spells do not apply.

/cevah

The FAQ in the OP says “Spells that affect weapons work on the spell Spiritual Weapon”, so I disagree with your reasoning on Weapon of Awe. I’m not sure you can touch it though, which would prevent it from being targeted.


As the Spiritual Weapon calls out that it strikes as a spell, it is clear it is not striking as a weapon. This means any bonus to weapon damage will not apply. The spell is affected by inspire courage, per the FAQ, but in a limited way as I indicated.

/cevah

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