Hi, guys. I know that there were many topics about monk stances, but all of them are old (2+ months old), and they don't answer my questions, so... here we go:
When a monk enters a stance, like Wolf Stance, does:
1st - He still can make Flurry of Blows with the Wolf Jaw attack??
2nd - Does it counts for Stunning Fist?
3rd - Can he uses Wolf Jaw in a reaction where he could use an unarmed attack?
4th - This attack benefits from magical runes from a Handwrap of Mighty Blows?
5th - Can he flurry Wolf Jaw attacks and "normal" unarmed attacks in the same round?
6th - He must use all keywords in the Wolf Jaw attack? More specifically, it must be a nonlethal attack, or can he use his "Powerful Fist" class feature to do lethal damage with it?
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my broken english.
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1 - Yes
2 - Yes
3 - Yes
4 - Yes
5 - Yes
6 - It can be either non-lethal or Lethal since they have the Powerful Fist feature.
1. Yes, of course. Monks can flurry w/ any unarmed attack.
2. Stunning Fist works w/ any Flurry of Blows directed at one opponent, so yes. Non-fist attacks work too.
3. Yes. Wolf Jaw is an unarmed attack in all ways.
4. Of course.
5. Flurry of Blows can use any unarmed attacks and does not need to use the same unarmed attack for both (so you could choose an Agile one for the second Strike).
6. Wolf Jaw keeps all those keywords, but yes, Powerful Fists lets a Monk make a lethal attack w/ zero penalty, even w/ non-fist unarmed attacks.
Anybody can make a lethal attack w/ a nonlethal unarmed attack, it's just non-Monks get a -2 penalty.
Your errors were minimal and within the range of many native speakers. :)
In short, it’s never a bad idea to have a Monk in a Stance, and they are overall really good.
Wow, guys, thanks for the fast answers!
About the stances, they seem strictly better than Ki Strike this way, or I'm forgetting something about the Ki Strike?
Thanks again!
Wow, guys, thanks for the fast answers!
About the stances, they seem strictly better than Ki Strike this way, or I'm forgetting something about the Ki Strike?
Thanks again!
There's no reason not to take both, they work together.
You can use the stance attacks when making the Strikes as part of Ki Strike.
If you take Monastic Weapons you can use them with Ki Strike as well, if you had Wolf Stance, Ki Strike, and Monastic weapons you could Wolf Jaw and use a weapon as part of Ki Strike.
But Ki Strike gives a +1 to hit, scaling damage, and lets you pick what type of damage, with Elemental Fist you can hit almost any weakness.
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Ki Strike seems pretty good to me, but I guess it depends on your build.
Wolf Stance only increases the die size by one (d6 to d8) and has the same traits as a normal unarmed attack, changing out slashing for bludgeoning. You gain extra crit damage which has a low chance of happening and a better step.
Ki Strike gives you a focus pool and meets the prereq for Wild Winds stance, Quivering Palm, and Ki Blast (there are others, I just don't like them as much). It provides a useful bonus to attack and extra damage that can apply to stance attacks, even multiple attacks in a flurry. It can't be used for every attack, but can be used every encounter and multiple times per encounter if you get other focus abilities.
It also doesn't have the concentrate trait, so a Barbarian that MCs Monk could theoretically do animal instinct ki strike flurries using two actions 3 times per encounter at higher levels, though I don't really know how effective that would be compared to a straight-up Barbarian
Ki Strike seems pretty good to me, but I guess it depends on your build.
Wolf Stance only increases the die size by one (d6 to d8) and has the same traits as a normal unarmed attack, changing out slashing for bludgeoning. You gain extra crit damage which has a low chance of happening and a better step.
Ki Strike gives you a focus pool and meets the prereq for Wild Winds stance, Quivering Palm, and Ki Blast (there are others, I just don't like them as much). It provides a useful bonus to attack and extra damage that can apply to stance attacks, even multiple attacks in a flurry. It can't be used for every attack, but can be used every encounter and multiple times per encounter if you get other focus abilities.
It also doesn't have the concentrate trait, so a Barbarian that MCs Monk could theoretically do animal instinct ki strike flurries using two actions 3 times per encounter at higher levels, though I don't really know how effective that would be compared to a straight-up Barbarian
You forgot Wolf Stance gains the Trip trait when flanking letting you Trip with Dex since it's a Finesse attack and adds any item bonus from handwraps.
Also why would a Monk/Barb be using 2 actions, Ki Strike is 1 action and includes the Flurry.
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You make 2 strikes with flurry of blows. Not two uses of activities that INCLUDE a strike, like Tiger Slash. There is no legitimate interpretation of these as being legal. See the section on Subordinate Actions on page 462, quoted below.
Subordinate Actions
An action might allow you to use a simpler action—usually one of the Basic Actions on page 469—in a different circumstance or with different effects. This subordinate action still has its normal traits and effects, but is modified in any ways listed in the larger action. For example, an activity that tells you to Stride up to half your Speed alters the normal distance you can move in a Stride. The Stride would still have the move trait, would still trigger reactions that occur based on movement, and so on. The subordinate action doesn’t gain any of the traits of the larger action unless specified. The action that allows you to use a subordinate action doesn’t require you to spend more actions or reactions to do so; that cost is already factored in.Using an activity is not the same as using any of its subordinate actions. For example, the quickened condition you get from the haste spell lets you spend an extra action each turn to Stride or Strike, but you couldn’t use the extra action for an activity that includes a Stride or Strike. As another example, if you used an action that specified, “If the next action you use is a Strike,” an activity that includes a Strike wouldn’t count, because the next thing you are doing is starting an activity, not using the Strike basic action.
"Strike" is a specific action. You can't substitute things for it freely.
5th - Can he flurry Wolf Jaw attacks and "normal" unarmed attacks in the same round?
Just to add some extra information here, the stance says whether you can do this or not. Wolf stance allows for it but Mountain stance actually says
"The only Strikes you can make are falling stone unarmed attacks"Just something to watch out for.