Blind Fighting at 1st level


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So, let's say I wanted to make a blind Fighter or Monk in first edition. All I would need to do is take the Blind Fighting feat. It might not be great but with certain bonuses could work out over time.

In second edition, apparently, this is not possible. Not for a Monk at all and not for a Fighter until they get the 8th level feats. Is there a good reason for this?


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There is actually a whole sidebar on playing differently abled characters in the core rulebook.


Specifically, "Characters With Disabilities" on page 487.


Captain Morgan wrote:
There is actually a whole sidebar on playing differently abled characters in the core rulebook.
Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
Specifically, "Characters With Disabilities" on page 487.

Yes, but the feats are suggested as 'might'. They are also suggested as a 'good idea' but the GM has final say, and there's nothing in the rules that allow a player to work around this should the GM decide they aren't going to give those feats out for free just because a player wants to play a differently abled character.


I mean isn't "I want to play a blind character" something you're going to want to bring up with the GM before you do it? Just to make sure that this isn't a campaign that assumes your character is able to read or something?

Like I'm not going to play a blind character in a game where the GM says it's not a good idea any more than I'm going to play an elf in a game where the GM says it's not a good idea.

Pathfinder second edition is just going to have things which you will need to talk to the GM before the game before you play them (e.g. Uncommon Ancestries explicitly work like this.)


Indagare wrote:
Captain Morgan wrote:
There is actually a whole sidebar on playing differently abled characters in the core rulebook.
Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
Specifically, "Characters With Disabilities" on page 487.
Yes, but the feats are suggested as 'might'. They are also suggested as a 'good idea' but the GM has final say, and there's nothing in the rules that allow a player to work around this should the GM decide they aren't going to give those feats out for free just because a player wants to play a differently abled character.

Right, and that's a good thing.

Some GMs aren't comfortable with people working outside normal boundaries and don't want the rules thrown at them to oblige them to allow it. Paizo understands this and likely understands that GMs would often prefer to collaborate with players on complicated issues like this.

PFS will have many interesting choices to make in PF2.

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