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The Wolf Jaw attack that come with the Wolf Stance gains the Trip trait when you are flanking your enemy. However, the text of the trip trait doesn't seem to give any benefits:
You can use this weapon to Trip with the Athletics skill even if you don’t have a free hand. This uses the weapon’s reach (if different from your own) and adds the weapon’s item bonus to attack rolls as an item bonus to the Athletics check. If you critically fail a check to Trip using the weapon, you can drop the weapon to take the effects of a failure instead of a critical failure.
A Wolf Jaw attack is an unarmed attack, so you have a free hand. It won't have an Item bonus, and you can't drop it to avoid the critical failure.
I'm not seeing any benefit from the Trip trait. Am I missing something?
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If you have Handwraps of Mighty Blows with a Striking Rune, or someone cast Magic Fang on you, you would have an item bonus.
Item bonuses to unarmed attacks are also applied to the Athletics check to Trip. Handwraps of Mighty Blows and other item bonus sources would therefore improve your success rate.
OK, so the only benefit is a possible item bonus from Handwraps. I was hoping for a little more, but that's at least something. ;-)
Well, the item bonus from the Handwraps is by far the most significant reason you'd want a weapon with the trip property. A total +3 to your trip rolls is a very large bonus compared to someone who isn't using a trip weapon, to the point where I can say with some confidence that if you want a combat maneuver to be your main thing then you want a weapon with the appropriate property.
Oh sure, I was just trying to figure out what benefit you get from adding "trip" to an unarmed strike.
The bonus to trips that Wolf Stance gives you if you have Handwraps is nice and all, just kind of lame that it doesn't apply at 1st level when you'll probably be getting it.
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Well... do you have a friend who knows Magic Fang? That applies at level 1.
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Apparently, since wolf jaw strikes also have finesse, it's meant to allow dexterity for the Athletics to trip. No confirmation on that, so take it or leave it.
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If you are talking about Wolf Drag, It causes anyone you hit with it (Wolf Drag, not Wolf Stance) to go Prone. This is not a trip. It is an attack that causes any creature it hits to go prone. You could use this to make creature of any size go prone, and you go against their AC instead of their Reflex Save.
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They gain the trip weapon trait (which is quoted in the 1st post of this thread), not a free trip with the attack. Any trip attempt is completely separate from attacks.
They gain the trip weapon trait (which is quoted in the 1st post of this thread), not a free trip with the attack. Any trip attempt is completely separate from attacks.
Thinking this is meant to be knockdown or improved knockdown.
They gain the trip weapon trait (which is quoted in the 1st post of this thread), not a free trip with the attack. Any trip attempt is completely separate from attacks.Thinking this is meant to be knockdown or improved knockdown.
No.
You use Wolf Stance to make wolf jaw attacks.
If you flank, your wolf jaw attacks (unarmed) gain the trip weapon trait so you can use the Trip action with the Athletics skill.