River Kingdom Excavator, playtest boon

[NielsenE]

Does anyone know what "River Kingdom Excavator" boon from the playtest does? All I seem to be able to find is the 'Slowly excavate Ramlock's Tower' without knowing what that is mechanically -- I'm guessing its expand downtime for some long term payoff..... (Do I need to click purchase to find out? Is that a irreversible action? I haven't wanted to click through anything w/o knowing how it all works)

[bdk86]

I've actually go the same question/concern. It'd be nice to see exactly what some of the boons do before clicking a possibly irreversible button. Or get confirmation you'll view a sample first before there's no going back.

[Joe Jungers]

I bought this after doing a little wiki research into Ramlock's Tower.

I'm looking t it as a long term hook for my -2001 PC.

Sadly, once you click the button, there's no going back - those points are spent.

[bdk86]

Joe Jungers wrote:

I bought this after doing a little wiki research into Ramlock's Tower.

I'm looking t it as a long term hook for my -2001 PC.

Sadly, once you click the button, there's no going back - those points are spent.

Can you speak to what the boon does, mechanically?

[Joe Jungers]

bdk86 wrote:

Joe Jungers wrote:

I bought this after doing a little wiki research into Ramlock's Tower.

I'm looking t it as a long term hook for my -2001 PC.

Sadly, once you click the button, there's no going back - those points are spent.

Can you speak to what the boon does, mechanically?

No clue at the moment.

Hoping that when they enable the boon printing function that I'll get more info.

[roll4initiative]

I looked up "Ramlock's Tower" on the wiki. Wow. Very interesting. Part of the Doomsday Dawn playtest adventure.

[NielsenE]

Yup I GM'd it; I know its flavor, but before I spend points on it, I'ld like the boon spelled out.

[NightTrace]

I spent it.

[medtec28]

Anyone have any details on this yet?

[rooneg]

medtec28 wrote:

Anyone have any details on this yet?

You will almost certainly need to wait till Paizo staff make their way back into the office and emerge from under their giant post-GenCon todo lists, I'd expect next week at the earliest.

[eddv]

I still have nightmares about running parts of DDD.

Still, if the thing is more mechanically interesting than the other options Ill get it so I am sitting on the points.

[Oriklad]

Sorry for pinging this post back up, but I hope that we could have a response soon with what it does exactly before people spend their non-refundable points.

[Hmm]

I have not spent any of my Playtest Points yet. I decided it was better to wait until I had more information on how all the options worked.

Hmm

[Wei Ji the Learner]

Hopefully they don't expire like Paizo Fun Bux Store Vouchers do.

At the very least, hopefully not before there is a year or so of knowing what said Boons are in total.

[NielsenE]

I know this one in particular is on Jared's list of things to look into for the Guide. So hopefully, once the campaign leadership have an answer he can get it posted reasonably quickly w/o needing to wait for a Paizo website update.

[medtec28]

I don’t need it in the guide, but I’d love it if the PTB’s would answer this, or any of the other number of questions, I understand that GenCon is big and stressful, but it’s almost like they launched a new campaign and peopl e have questions. When does the radio silence stop?

[medtec28]

Asking again guys, it’s been a month since GenCon and the release of PF2(and PFS 2.0), can we get a little help on this?

[Glen Irving]

I just purchased the Rugged Navigator boon. I guess I just wait until something happens.

If I'd known the boons were all priced even numbered, I'd have made sure I had an even number of Playtest points.

[NielsenE]

Well they updated it today....

From 'Slowly excavate Ramlock's Tower' to 'Slowly excavate Ramlock's Tower to gain treasure. May purchase more than once, but cost increases 50% at each purchase.'

That doesn't really help at all with the question of how do we use this boon if we've bought it/are thinking of buying it.

[roll4initiative]

Sounds like the old Treasure Map boon. You probably check off a box instead of earning cash during downtime. After so many boxes checked, earn X amount of gold.

[NielsenE]

Likely, yes, but it would still be nice to know the mechanics. People have character's they might want to purchase this boon for and start spending downtime towards it. I think its still the only only playtest boon that is non-functional without further information.

Of course being Ramlock's tower I wouldn't be surprised if instead of gold it were access to some uncommon occult items or spells.

[Smoog of Sarenrae]

Bump - 2 months into the campaign now. Any word on a more useful/usable description?

[Youst]

Yeah it’s the only one that stood out, and I want my money grubbing gobbo to use it..

Hates waiting we do...nasty nasty Drendle has us looking in sewers for ‘is hatsies...

[EJDean]

Any word on this?

[NielsenE]

No word yet, but the update recently, makes it sound like they've cleared a lot of hurdles in getting closer to have the Playtest Boons up.

[NielsenE]

Sample version of the boon was posted attached to a recent blog post. Short version:

Record you level when you start spending downtime on this (thereafter called 'starting level').
After 10 "Downtime" (I'm assuming 'days of' is implied): free common consumable of 'starting level'
After 20 "Downtime: 10 days worth of Expert regular success Earned Income at Starting Level + 2
After 80 "Downtime": Free permanent magic item upto starting level +2

There's no common/uncommon/rare wording on the 80 days one, but there is on the 10.

at 24 days of downtime per level, (or 36 for field commission)

Some quick math, assuming you start it at level 1 and would have successes (but not crit) on the earned income checks you forgo):
Levels 1 and 2 Earned Income:
4sp(8 days level 0, success) * 6 adventures = 2.4gp
6sp(12 days, level 0 success) * 6 adventures = 3.6gp (field commission)

Level 3:
1.6gp( 8 days, level 1, success) * 3 = 4.8gp
2.4gp(8 days(4 left over), level 1, success) *1 (80 days reached) = 2.4gp (FC)

Level 4:
2.4gp (8 days level 2, success) *1 (80 days) = 2.4gp

Total lost earned income:
Non-Field Commission: 9.6gp
Field Commission: 6gp

Value Received:
Level 1 Consumable: 3-4 GP
Level 3 expert earned income (same as trained, 10 days) 5gp
Level 3 Permanent magic item: ~50-60gp

So the 10 & 20 day thresholds basically pay for itself, and you get the bonus item. Definitely best on field commission who get the item when its a top tier item for you rather than a lower than your level item.
Starting one a level 2 character (so that starting level +2 = 4) you'll get some advantage from the Expert versus trained earned income