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Yeah, Aroden also ascended via the Starstone.
I guess I see "the test of the starstone" to be specifically "cross the bottomless pit, get into the cathedral with no apparent doors or windows that can be opened, and deal with whatever you find inside". When Aroden raised the Starstone from the depths of the ocean it was just a big magical space rock right? I figured he put all the stuff around it specifically to prevent the unworthy from achieving divinity.
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Ah, so THATS how goblins make the transition to "good" guys.
IMO, that's probably the best outcome that could have happened with Ulthun. After the latest Tyrant's Grasp book I was wondering what situation would end up being canon.
Also pretty jazzed about new Aroden/Absalom content, I know couple people who are going to be excited for that. Can't wait!!
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It seems that the Starstone is still intact. I thought about the possibility that in the last book of Tyrant's Grasp, the Whispering Tyrant might have ascended and subsequently destroyed the Starstone so that no one can easily become a god any longer.
It'd be foolish and wasteful for us to destroy ANYTHING significant in the setting before we've had a chance to tell the actual implied story that thing suggests. In the case of the Starstone, that's basically "The adventure where your PCs go take the test and become gods." Until we get around to doing that as an adventure or something, you can be pretty confident we won't be destroying the Starstone "offscreen."
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I feel like "destroying the starstone" is a non-starter since the uncertainty it creates (i.e. "well, there won't be any new gods that way") has minimal impact as the number of mortals who became deities that way within the narrative isn't much bigger than the number of mortals who became deities in unrelated ways (e.g. Irori, Cassanadalee).
When instead if we wanted something a baddie did to have lasting impact they could attempt to destroy it but would instead damage it or alter it somehow which could cause any number of different ripples. After all, "the Starstone is different now" opens up more stories than "the Starstone is gone."
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In updating the setting for the Age of Lost Omens World Guide, we looked at scores of sources that fleshed out the vast city, incorporating events, locations, and personalities that grew organically over the last 12 years. Many of these sources were Pathfinder Society Scenarios, and players of the largest Pathfinder campaign in the world will notice a lot of their efforts represented in the current state of the city. Slavery has been abolished
Was the bolded bit in a PFS scenario? If not, where from?
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Pathfinder Society members might recognize her as a slightly less windswept Janira Gavix.
Thanks, I was about to ask, so happy that she got a new picture ^^
EDIT: Just checked out the artist, and found the Artsation link, the artist is responsible for all of those neat sketches from the Kingmaker CRPG.
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Razmir is the 4th, right? :)
Nope
The mysterious "fourth god" is not a mystery. It's Aroden. He was technically the first to pass the Test of the Starstone. The pit crossing element wasn't a thing back then, and some day it might not be in the future. Things can change and have done so already.
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So is Lastwall a new settlement on Absalom now or has the army just changed from what it once was to something entirely different.
I also noticed that it appears Cannons have become widespread looking at the ships heading away/toward the city.
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The mysterious "fourth god" is not a mystery. It's Aroden. He was technically the first to pass the Test of the Starstone. The pit crossing element wasn't a thing back then, and some day it might not be in the future. Things can change and have done so already.
Well, about that: Did the Starstone make Aroden awesome, or did he make it awesome?
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James Jacobs wrote:The mysterious "fourth god" is not a mystery. It's Aroden. He was technically the first to pass the Test of the Starstone. The pit crossing element wasn't a thing back then, and some day it might not be in the future. Things can change and have done so already.Well, about that: Did the Starstone make Aroden awesome, or did he make it awesome?
I think it was Mythic Realms that made it concrete that the Starstone was already strongly mythical when it was brought down from the Diaspora! :)
Pinstripedbarbarian
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Pathfinder Society members might recognize her as a slightly less windswept Janira Gavix.
Dang, I might have to rethink my position on Janira then. I have been someone with... less than wonderful things to say about her in The Confirmation.
That said I really like the new design. I wondered what changed to shift her from veritable troll-doll to this.
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UnArcaneElection wrote:I think it was Mythic Realms that made it concrete that the Starstone was already strongly mythical when it was brought down from the Diaspora! :)James Jacobs wrote:The mysterious "fourth god" is not a mystery. It's Aroden. He was technically the first to pass the Test of the Starstone. The pit crossing element wasn't a thing back then, and some day it might not be in the future. Things can change and have done so already.Well, about that: Did the Starstone make Aroden awesome, or did he make it awesome?
The Test of the Starstone is twofold. The first is reaching it, the second is touching it and passing through the mental trials. Survive both, claim godhood. Aroden raised the stone and the island, that was his physical trial. Then after he claimed divinity, he constructed the Cathedral and the first part of the test.
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Wait, the first picture - is that supposed to be Absalom? I don't remember a giant onion dome in Absalom.
I'm not familiar enough with Absalom to know what it is, but the same dome is visible in this picture of the harbor from Guide to Absalom, although it's less visible behind the haze.
(The architecture does come across more neoclassical than Byzantine/Russian in the older picture, I must admit.)
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The mysterious "fourth god" is not a mystery. It's Aroden. He was technically the first to pass the Test of the Starstone. The pit crossing element wasn't a thing back then, and some day it might not be in the future. Things can change and have done so already.
Too bad. I was hoping that a Good goblin was able to sneak into the Cathedral thanks to the chaos surrounding Tar-Baphon's return and ended up a new deity. This is the kind of event that would really improve the standing of goblins everywhere.
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James Jacobs wrote:The mysterious "fourth god" is not a mystery. It's Aroden. He was technically the first to pass the Test of the Starstone. The pit crossing element wasn't a thing back then, and some day it might not be in the future. Things can change and have done so already.Too bad. I was hoping that a Good goblin was able to sneak into the Cathedral thanks to the chaos surrounding Tar-Baphon's return and ended up a new deity. This is the kind of event that would really improve the standing of goblins everywhere.
Brump: God of good goblins, pickles and slapstick! He crossed the pit by being launched via trebuchet (he may or may not have been willing), crashed through a wall and landed right next to the stone (thankfully he was a tough bugger with the Indestructible heritage). Then he licked the Starstone. The Starstone has a sense of humor (see Caliean, Cayden), so he ascended.
Praise Brump! Brine for the brine god! Pickles for the pickle throne!
But seriously. I think we've already seen the justification for more friendly goblins. Tar-Baphon tore through Isger on the way to the Starstone, flushing out some of the gob tribes who have quietly been recovering from the Goblinblood wars and keeping out of site. The threat of Tar-Baphon convinces them that hiding wasn't enough to keep them safe, and to really do that they needed allies. So some of the less aggressive and less evil tribes decided to try making friends with their neighbors. So partly that there were already non-evil goblins, but they largely kept out of sight, and partly setting events driving a change of attitude.