No Finesse Monk weapons?

[Aelith]

So not exactly, None the Sai is a monk finesse weapon but it doesn't seem to hold up against the stance unarmed damage, and any of the d8 weapons are not finesse, so from the play test it would seem the only viable Dex based monk would be unarmed in a stance.

[Blave]

Nunchaku and Sai have the Finesse and the Monk trait.

[ChibiNyan]

Give STR monks a bone! I think its fine if the stances/weapons that are DEX based deal less damage.

[Midnightoker]

ChibiNyan wrote:

Give STR monks a bone! I think its fine if the stances/weapons that are DEX based deal less damage.

1.5 STR to damage in all special attacks For STR based stances

[ChibiNyan]

Granted, I wouldn't mind if they had some low dice DEX weapons like Sai, KusariGama, dual sticks or something like that, just to have variety.

[Lucas Yew]

I always wonder why they hesitate to make SAD weapon-users nor DEX-to-damage viable this much...

If they think a SAD DEX character is too strong, they can easily equalize it by making SAD STR just as good as well. Isn't it that simple?

[PossibleCabbage]

If there was a d8 dex weapon, everybody would want to use that one, not just monks. Having stances be slightly better is reasonable, I feel since "enter a stance" costs an action at the start of combat whereas you can just walk around with your weapon drawn.

I mean, Dragon Style gives Str Monks a d10 attack that doesn't require 2 hands- no one else gets that.

[Deadmanwalking]

There is a d8 finesse weapon. The Elven Curveblade. It is, however, a two-handed weapon, and it is certainly not a monk weapon.

That said, I think a three-section-staff or something of the sort as a d8, two-handed, finesse monk weapon is actually a perfectly reasonable weapon in the system as presented. A one-handed one would have distinct balance issues, but two-handed? Should be fine.

[Malk_Content]

Lucas Yew wrote:

I always wonder why they hesitate to make SAD weapon-users nor DEX-to-damage viable this much...

If they think a SAD DEX character is too strong, they can easily equalize it by making SAD STR just as good as well. Isn't it that simple?

What about SAD Wis, Con, Cha or Int?

[PossibleCabbage]

I'd prefer there not be any SAD anything.

[Malk_Content]

PossibleCabbage wrote:

I'd prefer there not be any SAD anything.

That was going to be my follow on point :) Every stat should be somewhat desirable on any class.

[Roswynn]

Malk_Content wrote:

PossibleCabbage wrote:

I'd prefer there not be any SAD anything.

That was going to be my follow on point :) Every stat should be somewhat desirable on any class.

Key term being somewhat, but yes, it should...

[The Raven Black]

MAD is better than SAD as a design goal IMO. We just need to avoid AAD (All Attributes Dependent), which is even more boring than SAD.

[Midnightoker]

Malk_Content wrote:

PossibleCabbage wrote:

I'd prefer there not be any SAD anything.

That was going to be my follow on point :) Every stat should be somewhat desirable on any class.

To add to that, I think classes that can't take advantage of certain aspects of an Attribute should get some kind of investment reward for the loss.

For instance in the case of a STR based Monk, they can't take advantage of the Armor speed reduction benefits, so having a little extra pizzazz to compensate for the loss would be nice.

This is sort of what Armored combatants get with DEX, in free proficiencies with Armor and such.