Grab ability and MAP


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The grab monster ability requires no attack roll, it also doesn't have the attack tag. But it is very similar to the grapple action. So I think, RAW, its exempt for the multi attack penalty. But should it be?

Also the texts says 'The monster automatically Grabs the target'. But the action is Grapple and the condition is Grabbed. So does it want to refer to Grapple and infer the attack tag or not? Grabs doesn't seem to be a keyword.


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...How can it interact with the MAP? It has no roll at all. It automatically succeeds if the attack hits. There is no Grapple action happening, just applying the Grabbed condition, so it does not want to refer to Grapple. Grapple is entirely unrelated to Grab.


If you want to give it a penalty, please do so. Let me know what happens.

Jokes aside, there is no point.


I mean, it's a valid concern, in say Attack, grab, attack, where the question would be if attack #2 has -5 or -10 from MAP.

That said, Grab just automatically gives the target Grappled, which is different from using athletics to attack the target to grapple them

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