If I am a 10th level fighter and I take the wizard dedication multiclass feat my cantrips are heightened to 5th level.
"If you gain access to a cantrip but aren’t normally a spellcaster, your cantrips automatically heightened to half your level, rounded up."
But if I decide to improve my casting abilities and take the basic wizard spellcasting feat I can only heighten my spells to 3rd level, the maximum spell level granted by the feat.
"A cantrip is always automatically heightened to the highest level of spell you can cast in the class. This makes a cantrip a 1st-level spell if you can cast 1st-level spells, a 2nd-level spell if you can cast 2nd-level spells, and so on."
And what happens if I am a cleric and take the basic wizard spellcasting feat? I can cast 5th level spells, so it would seem that my wizard cantrips would heighten to 5th level. But why are my arcane cantrips more powerful than the fighter's when we have the exact same arcane ability?
And that's why all spellcasting multiclass feats (that add spells) say in the end:Even though you can cast spells, the spell level of your
cantrips and arcane powers is half your level rounded up.
Basically, no matter how you gain Cantrips, the game makes sure they autoheighten to half your level
Yeah, only if you take Basic x Spellcasting, your cantrips autoheighten. If you have just the Wizard Dedication feat, your Wizard cantrips don't autoheighten.
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Ah, I see now the confusion is coming from the intersection of the cantrip rules with multiclassing feats.
A cantrip is a special type of spell that you can master to a higher degree than you can other spells. A spell with the cantrip trait doesn’t use spell slots—you can cast a cantrip at will, any number of times per day.
You can’t prepare a cantrip in a numbered spell slot. A cantrip is always automatically heightened to the highest level of spell you can cast in the class. This makes a cantrip a 1st-level spell if you can cast 1st-level spells, a 2nd-level spell if you can cast 2nd-level spells, and so on. If you gain access to a cantrip but aren’t normally a spellcaster, your cantrips automatically heightened to half your level, rounded up.
Basically, everything in bold should be deleted.
Dedication also has the exact same language.
They also autoheighten.
I don't see it. Is this in some other update?
I just downloaded the Multiclass Archetypes Update again:WIZARD DEDICATION FEAT 2
Prerequisites Intelligence 16, trained in Arcana
You cast spells like a wizard and gain a spellbook containing four common cantrips of your choice from the arcane spell list. You gain access to the Cast a Spell activity and the Material Casting, Somatic Casting, and Verbal Casting actions. You can prepare two cantrips each day from those found in your spellbook. You’re trained in spell rolls and spell DCs for casting arcane spells and in attacks you make with arcane spells. Your key spellcasting ability for these spells is Intelligence. You can use wands, scrolls, and staves, but only for spells of a spell level you can cast.
You become trained in Arcana; if you were already trained in Arcana, you instead become trained in a skill of your choice.
Special You cannot select another dedication feat until you have gained two other feats from the wizard archetype.
BASIC WIZARD SPELLCASTING FEAT 4
Prerequisites Wizard Dedication
Add two level 1 arcane spells to your spellbook. You gain a single level 1 spell slot that you can use to prepare a level 1 spell from your spellbook.
At 6th level, add two level 2 arcane spells to your spellbook, and you gain a level 2 spell slot that you can use to prepare a level 2 spell from your spellbook. At 8th level, add two level 3 arcane spells to your spellbook, and you gain a level 3 spell slot that you can use to prepare a level 3 spell from your spellbook.
Even though you can cast spells, the spell level of your cantrips and arcane powers is half your level rounded up.
With Wizard Dedication alone, you can cast just cantrips, and they don't/shouldn't heighten.
Only after taking Basic Wizard Spellcasting, your cantrips autoheighten.If you take Arcane School withouot Basic Wizard Spellcasting, your powers don't autoheighten as well.
Dedication also has the exact same language.
They also autoheighten.
I don't see it. Is this in some other update?
I just downloaded the Multiclass Archetypes Update again:WIZARD DEDICATION FEAT 2
Prerequisites Intelligence 16, trained in Arcana
You cast spells like a wizard and gain a spellbook containing four common cantrips of your choice from the arcane spell list. You gain access to the Cast a Spell activity and the Material Casting, Somatic Casting, and Verbal Casting actions. You can prepare two cantrips each day from those found in your spellbook. You’re trained in spell rolls and spell DCs for casting arcane spells and in attacks you make with arcane spells. Your key spellcasting ability for these spells is Intelligence. You can use wands, scrolls, and staves, but only for spells of a spell level you can cast.
You become trained in Arcana; if you were already trained in Arcana, you instead become trained in a skill of your choice.
Special You cannot select another dedication feat until you have gained two other feats from the wizard archetype.BASIC WIZARD SPELLCASTING FEAT 4
Prerequisites Wizard Dedication
Add two level 1 arcane spells to your spellbook. You gain a single level 1 spell slot that you can use to prepare a level 1 spell from your spellbook.
At 6th level, add two level 2 arcane spells to your spellbook, and you gain a level 2 spell slot that you can use to prepare a level 2 spell from your spellbook. At 8th level, add two level 3 arcane spells to your spellbook, and you gain a level 3 spell slot that you can use to prepare a level 3 spell from your spellbook.
Even though you can cast spells, the spell level of your cantrips and arcane powers is half your level rounded up.With Wizard Dedication alone, you can cast just cantrips, and they don't/shouldn't heighten.
Only after taking Basic Wizard...
It is in the spells section of the playtest rulebook. The section on cantrips.