Building a Musket Master Gunslinger, want to be effective but avoid the cheese.


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Disclaimer: This is one of my PFS characters, who is currently a 2nd level character so his stats and traits are fixed.

Nigel Strickland
Male Human Gunslinger 2

Str 10
Dex 17
Con 14
Int 14
Wis 14
Cha 8

Traits
Larger Than Life: You wield firearms with truly terrifying menace. When you use the Intimidate skill on a creature while wielding a firearm, you are considered one size category larger than your actual size.

Bruising Intellect: Your sharp intellect and rapier-like wit bruise egos. Intimidate is always a class skill for you, and you may use your Intelligence modifier when making Intimidate checks instead of your Charisma modifier.

Feats:
Rapid Reload (Muskets) - Free
1. Point-Blank Shot - Level 1
1. Precise Shot - Bonus Human

So, with a +2 Intelligence bonus, 2 ranks in Int, it being a class skill, and wielding a firearm I have a +10 bonus to Intimidate against Medium or smaller creatures, which I figured I could use as something to do in combat other than shoot people (2+1+3+4) = 10

I'm planning to go 5 levels of Gunslinger (to get Dex to Damage) and then multiclass into a Luring Cavalier (Order of the Cockatrice). I roleplay him as a pith helmet wearing braggart and kind of a b&@!@%%!ter, constantly telling stories about his deeds as a famous Pathfinder in foreign lands, so Order of the Cockatrice's braggart ability fits really nicely with the character concept, and by then I should be able to draw my musket and use Dazzling Display on the first round of combat, and by then have a +15 to Intimidate.

For the future, assuming he's not eaten by a grue, I'd like to make a fun build. It should be effective, but I'd like to avoid cheese.

For feats, would going with:

3. Rapid Shot
4. Weapon Focus: Musket
5. Combat Reflexes
6. (Cavalier Tactician): Target of Opportunity
7. Snap Shot
7. (Cavalier Order) Dazzling Display (As a standard action).
9. Improved Snap Shot

be too cheesy?

Shadow Lodge

I wouldn't say it's cheesy. You might want to pick up Deadly Aim somewhere if you can.

Also, spend 5 prestige to buy a caravan. Intimidates like that make good day jobs.


I don't really see what could be cheese with a musket master build. You have most of the ranged feats you will need, except deadly aim. You have acceptable stats for a slinger, though I personally like 12 STR starting. If you are going to intimidate with INT there is no reason NOT to go to 7 CHA IMHO, and 12 con is good enough, 12,18,12,14,14,7 or 12,17,14,14,14,7 is how I would go. But since you have this character stats in stone, nothing you can really do now.

Don't really like the cavalier multiclass, it doesn't add enough in my opinion (horse based class in the anti mounted combat society play dungeons), and you miss out on guntraining 2 and nimble 2 and some deeds.

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I agree that the large mount would definitely be not ideal. I could just do a two-level dip and just ignore the mount, or occasionally bring out a camel to spit on people (Target of Opportunity!) when scenarios allow, but it'll be very fragile by then.

Yeah, the ten STR hurts, I have to be extremely careful with my carrying capacity.

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You need Deadly Aim, either at level 3 or level 4 (Weapon Focus can go for sure, since you'll be targeting touch AC most of the time). That's what will keep your damage relevant as you level up. Also, you might consider the Shield Marshal prestige class (from Paths of Prestige). They get a lot of cool abilities for gunslingers, but you'd need to take Quick Draw.

The Exchange

Weapon Focus is a PreReq for Snap Shot, but y'all are right about Deadly Aim.

Shield Marshal looks nice but doesn't really fit with the character.

I suppose I could throw a level or two of fighter in there

Shadow Lodge

Weapon focus is also a prerequisite for dazzling display, isn't it?


thistledown wrote:
Weapon focus is also a prerequisite for dazzling display, isn't it?

Order of the Cockatrice gives it for free even if you lack WF. In fact, it gives a better version (standard action).


If you wish to avoid cheese just stay with the standard musket and you should be okay.

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Mojorat wrote:
If you wish to avoid cheese just stay with the standard musket and you should be okay.

Yeah, the gunslinger cheese comes from (IIRC) using two double-barreled pistols with weapon cords, and getting off 8 shots in a round. Muskets shouldn't be an issue.

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