Fighter: Exotic Weapon Training Feat


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At 6th level a FIghter can take the exotic weapon training feat which reads:

Quote:

Choose an exotic weapon when you gain this feat. You gain trained

proficiency with that exotic weapon and access to its critical specialization effects as if it
were a martial weapon in its weapon group.

But the Fighter starts 'Trained' in all exotic weapons and can become an 'Expert' in one Exotic weapon group at level 5.

So either this is meant to provide a higher proficiency than Trained, or the text is redundant and its effect is actually to just give you access to critical specialization effects for that weapon.

This should be cleaned up or clarified.


The closest I can see it being is for 12th level X/MC fighters to get access to an exotic weapon, but it does feel really odd. I know there are some class feats that have prerequisites or effects that target corner cases (like requiring expert saves, when the class gets them freely as expert, or the deadly simplicity feat upgrading unarmed strikes to d6, specifically, when a d4 upgraded to d6 does the same thing), but for that feat, I think it would probably be best served by rewording it to be:

"Choose an exotic weapon when you gain this feat. You gain access to that weapon's critical specialization effects, so long as you would gain the critical specialization effect if it were a martial weapon of it's weapon group. If your proficiency with that weapon is less than trained, you are considered trained in that weapon".

As far as I can determine, this does the exact same thing, even in the corner cases of multiclassing, where you can't guarantee training in the weapon, or that the character will have martial weapon critical specialization, but is worded in a way that presents its most common effects firstly, and only then presents its corner case effects.


I suspect that an earlier revision didn't have fighters getting trained in exotic weapons, making this class feat relevant. And when it was changed, the feat fell through the cracks. It wouldn't be the first error in the book :>

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Completely agree, as written the feat doesn't do anything.


http://paizo.com/threads/rzs3gstz?Greatswords-and-nodachis-why-Uncommon-doe snt

I'm actually opposed to the continued existence of exotic weapons at all, so...


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What I read it as is that it is treated as a martial weapon, which means it advances proficiency more quickly like other martial weapons. (If you notice, exotic normally lag a category behind.) The "become trained" part probably is leftover from an earlier draft though.


Scythia wrote:
What I read it as is that it is treated as a martial weapon, which means it advances proficiency more quickly like other martial weapons. (If you notice, exotic normally lag a category behind.) The "become trained" part probably is leftover from an earlier draft though.

I also assumed this is the intent. It should certainly be disambiguated in the next errata, either by removing the word "trained" or by removing the reference to proficiency altogether.

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