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I'd like to confirm something with the crowd here really quickly. I'm looking for a way for a human to get a bite attack outside of the ring of rat fangs. One of the few PFS legal ways seems to be to select the racial trait 'tusked' from Orcs of Golarion (normally half orc or orc only), though to select this I'd have to use adopted for it and spend a feat for the additional traits. The character has a half orc stepmother so lorewise It would fit pretty well.
By RAW from the adopted and tusked traits, I believe this works. It makes a bit less sense outside of raw since other than the tusks I have from the helm of the mammoth lord (which you supposedly use to gore people with it), I don't have natural tusks as a human and thus I can't think of a way I could bite people with tusks.
Is there a problem if I refluffed this to some kind of dirty fighting technique that was taught to the character by his mother to add a bite myself the moment the enemy gets gored by the helm tusk? Or, I don't know, if I pulled the enemy into the helm tusks afterwards to make a bite-like motion?
From reading the ring of rat fangs, it is implied that a character can bite really hard on his own even before his physical appearance/attributes would change from its use so I guess that means normal teeth can be lethal by themselves. Is this a plausible refluff? Or am I missing something rulewise?
Well, there is the Animal Fury rage power for barbarians of any race, since Core Rulebook. So it seems reasonable to say human teeth can be lethal, with proper training.
A trait for a bite attack is a bit underpriced, but it's just normal damage (1d4 for Medium), doesn't come with extras (like scaling damage or grab ability) and you use two trait categories instead of one. So, why not...
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While the RAW supports it, common sense doesn't. But you knew that already.
Yeah, to elaborate a bit more, while the trait is named 'tusked', the benefit line is simply 'you gain a bite attack at 1d4'. I'm looking for both some type of evidence that this would or wouldn't be allowed and if allowed some acceptable refluff.
Since it is for PFS I believe all that matters is RAW. From what I understand they go strictly by the book and do not allow you to refluff things, but on the other hand it does not have to make sense. This means that although illogical you should be good with the adopted trait and Tusked.
If you really want an explanation that does not change the effect simply have some of your distant ancestors be orcs. It was far enough back that you are human in all other ways, but maybe both your parents were carrying the recessive gene. When you were adopted by orcs they taught you how to sharpen your tusks into a weapon.
It bears mentioning that (unlike other character options) many consider reflavoring traits to be acceptable in PFS, using this post from a former member of PFS Leadership as justification.
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You actually can make sense of this without reskinning it.
He didn't get tusks because he was adopted.
He was adopted because he had tusks.
Given that there was once a comparable feat for this back in 3.5, I don't really see any problem with this.
http://dnd.arkalseif.info/feats/heroes-of-horror--70/deformity-teeth--569/i ndex.html
If I had to say something against, I vaguely remember the debates concerning the kobold tail terror. Didn't it end up 'you can't get a tail attack unless you have a tail?'
Anyway, back to point- I would like to say 'you cannot get tusk based bites unless you have tusks'. That would allow me to cleanly kill off the legions of catfolk barbarians raised by halforcs. So I am happy.
The difference is that Tail Terror doesn't give you a tail, but Tusked actually gives you tusks. Perhaps your adopted tribe performed horrific body modifications on you to get the desired result. Have you seen the kind of things humans do to themselves/each other?
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You actually can make sense of this without reskinning it.
He didn't get tusks because he was adopted.
He was adopted because he had tusks.
Also, this. This, I like.
The difference is that Tail Terror doesn't give you a tail, but Tusked actually gives you tusks. Perhaps your adopted tribe performed horrific body modifications on you to get the desired result. Have you seen the kind of things humans do to themselves/each other?
Shhhh... I am trying to make my lullaby out of the imagined screams of countless half-orc raised catfolk barbarians that are screaming as they fade from existence. Catfolk alchemists with vestigial arms too.
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The difference is that Tail Terror doesn't give you a tail, but Tusked actually gives you tusks. Perhaps your adopted tribe performed horrific body modifications on you to get the desired result. Have you seen the kind of things humans do to themselves/each other?Shhhh... I am trying to make my lullaby out of the imagined screams of countless half-orc raised catfolk barbarians that are screaming as they fade from existence. Catfolk alchemists with vestigial arms too.
Meanwhile, in Garund, at the Hand in Paw Catfolk Orphanage . . . Grandmother Two-Tusks pauses just long enough to shed a single, solitary tear. Then, with a shuddering sigh, she returns to shoveling out the second floor litterboxen.