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I keep seeing this but can't find the related post. Who is mark seifer and are we supposed to remove the +4?

Mark Seifter is a Designer and the "rules guy".

As to the voracity of the statement about removing the bonus to trick attacks, I'm not sure.
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While I am the preliminary designer of the operative, commentary from forum posts by staff members are not official rules sources (and particularly not from me, since I'm not on the Starfinder team beyond the Starfinder CRB).

The RAW states the "Ghost" When you use
Stealth to make a trick attack, you gain a +4 bonus to the skill
check. Is this valid or not? I will take your word for it mark.
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It is valid as it is in the CRB and there is no official FAQ stating otherwise. I'm sure there will be a FAQ released in the coming months that addresses some of the potential errors in the book. Mark's post is a clear indicator that when he was designing the operative that the ghost was not supposed to get the +4 at that point in the development cycle. If the change was an intentional change by the starfinder development team after he finished his work or an error from editing and copy fitting remains to be seen.

If you wish to house rule it not to work, his insights are a perfectly valid reason to do so.
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Mark Seifter wrote:
While I am the preliminary designer of the operative, commentary from forum posts by staff members are not official rules sources (and particularly not from me, since I'm not on the Starfinder team beyond the Starfinder CRB).

Obviously we need a FAQ for Starfinder until an Errata is available.

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Chemlak wrote:
Looks like Starfinder Rules Questions needs adding to the subforums that can be FAQd.

They're probably holding off until after Gencon and a first online FAQ based on issues they've see here and hear from Gencon participants.

They gave the pregen the +4. And clarified that the flat-footed condition is only vs the trick attack and not for all allies attacks.

That extra +4 isn't game breaking but considering how long it took to change the PFS pregens it will be there a long time.
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It seems like these two issues were among the first to hit the forums and no one is willing to clearly state it one way or the other. The FAQ just went up so I'd prefer to give them week or two to get through Gencon and then FAQ this if it's still neccesary.

Operative: Ghost +4? y/n
Skill Focus bonus meant to count as Untyped or Insight?
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Richard McGuffin wrote:
Skill Focus bonus meant to count as Untyped or Insight?

Insight 100% sure - not stacking.

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Varun Creed wrote:
Richard McGuffin wrote:
Skill Focus bonus meant to count as Untyped or Insight?
Insight 100% sure - not stacking.

Raw this is correct, and I am inclined to agree, but there was an early quote from Seifter that put a big question mark on that. Do you have a link to a qoute from the designers to finalize that? If so I would appreciate it as it would settle a contentious point in my group.

This one post right after the original discovery of the accidental +4 to ghost has lead to more than one headache in my group.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ui01?Starfinder-Early-Impressions#42
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