Adding the giant template to the lantern archon or the lightning elemental


Rules Questions


Summoning does make a whole bunch of new question pop up.

Here goes another one.

The simple giant template specifies "Attacks: increase dice rolled by 1 step". For any bite or claw that is rather simple.

But how about the ray of light of lantern archons or the electricity damage of lightning elementals?

Light Ray (Ex) Fire beams of light to damage foes. Maximum range of
30 feet. This attack overcomes damage reduction of any type.
Ranged 2 light rays +3 ranged touch (1d6)
Does that go up to 1d8?

or the lightning elemental (small)
Melee slam +5 (1d4 plus 1d3 electricity)
does that become 1d6+2+1d4 electricity (the +2 ist from the Str increase)

Again this will not make the difference between winning or losing a fight. But knowledge is power.


Bump


By raw it doesn't effect it I don't think but I would think it reasonable to bump it up to a d8 for archon and d6 for elemental.


The actual medium lightning elemental does a slam of 1d6+3+1d4 electricity. So it seems like the energy damage does go up from size. Though I suppose it could go up with hit dice in a way that coincidentally matches a size increase.

(Note the +3 rather than the +2 because a creature with a single natural weapon attack gets +50% Str damage.)


Thanks :-)

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