Dragonhide Armor (PFS Legal)


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Wayfinders

A quick question about Dragonhide armor.

There was a discussion on this item at the earlier game. Our GM dropped a fireball on us and several items were unattended and would take the fire damage. We all agreed to that at the end...

Luckily most of the items are mundane... Most... There was a +1 Dragonhide Breastplate and the player had declared on his Inventory Tracking Sheet that it was created from scales of a dragon immune to fire.

Question... Can we just declare (when purchasing) what the scales of the dragon would be immune to?

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

First, was the armor on the ground dropped?

Second, you buy black dragon hide armor or blue dragon hide armor, etc. Chosen when you buy and it doesn't change.


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Special Materials Rules wrote:
If the dragonhide comes from a dragon that had immunity to an energy type, the armor is also immune to that energy type, although this does not confer any protection to the wearer.

If there's a dragon that's immune to that energy type, then it stands to reason that there's dragon hide armor that's immune to that energy type. Are there dragons that are immune to force or sonic damage ?

Wayfinders

1. The party was sleeping when we were attacked, so the armor was on the ground.

2. Question is more towards, for PFS Legal, can we just announce when purchasing what type of damage the dragon was immune to OR must find it in a chronicle sheet.

SlimGauge: Don't think so. Only the four basic elemental type


Dragonhide is PFS legal and energy immunity is part of the material.

The player should specify the type of dragon the dragonhide comes from at the time the armor is purchased and notate it on their character sheet.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

A1) In the future bundle it up in your gear at night so it's "attended".

A2) yes pick when buying. There are no chronicles with specific dragon hide. To my knowledge it all just says dragonhide.

Sczarni

James Risner wrote:
There are no chronicles with specific dragon hide. To my knowledge it all just says dragonhide.

The Chronicles that grant access to Dragonhide do indeed grant access to specific colors (and there's an in-scenario reason for each of them as well). I know of Red, Black and Underworld, at least.

Le Enigmax wrote:
the player had declared on his Inventory Tracking Sheet that it was created from scales of a dragon immune to fire.

Sounds like they filled out their ITS correctly.

Though even if it wasn't immune to fire, it's incredibly difficult to destroy something like a Dragonhide Breastplate with a Fireball. Hardness 10 and 30 hit points, minimum. Even a Maximized Fireball, CL 10th, wouldn't destroy such an item.

Without Maximize it would take 5 regular Fireballs at CL 10 dealing average damage to destroy such an item.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

Plus once destroyed a single make whole and a lot of mending would repair it.

Sczarni

Mending wouldn't, unless you paid a 30th level Caster multiple times.

At that point, you may as well just pay for a higher level Make Whole.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

Hmm you right. Thought mending didn't care once it had 1 hp. Think there is a 6th level spell that completely repairs? Hammer of something?

Scarab Sages

Le Enigmax wrote:

1. The party was sleeping when we were attacked, so the armor was on the ground.

2. Question is more towards, for PFS Legal, can we just announce when purchasing what type of damage the dragon was immune to OR must find it in a chronicle sheet.

SlimGauge: Don't think so. Only the four basic elemental type

I always write down what type of material is used, "Red Dragonhide" and so forth. It is notable that not all dragonhide has an immunity, so if unmentioned, it lacks one (as per the description of dragonhide in the CRB). There's no cost difference, so I always list a specific dragon type with a specific immunity when buying one.

That said, I've never seen any indication that I'm doing it wrong. The main thing is that the type you pick, stays. If you changed it whenever, that would be a problem.

My favorite feature of dragonhide is the array of colors you can paint your model's armor, thanks to the many colors of dragons.


SlimGauge wrote:
Special Materials Rules wrote:
If the dragonhide comes from a dragon that had immunity to an energy type, the armor is also immune to that energy type, although this does not confer any protection to the wearer.
If there's a dragon that's immune to that energy type, then it stands to reason that there's dragon hide armor that's immune to that energy type. Are there dragons that are immune to force or sonic damage ?

crystal dragons have sonic immunity, A couple of the esoteric dragons use force breath weapons, but I was unable to verify if they have immunity.

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