Razmiran character suggestions?


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This is my first post, so if it's in the wrong spot, I apologize in advance.

I'm interested in getting involved with organized play, and am wondering how I would go about making a Razmiran character? My idea is for a Lawful Neutral fighter who was raised in Razmiran as a devout worshiper of the "Living God", but since he isn't really a god is that a legal option?


If I'm not mistaken, choosing a god is not mandatory if you're not a divine class. So I'm guessing that Razmir is legal as long as you are not casting divine spells or using divine feats/traits. Basically you can be an atheist or a believer "in friendship" or "voodo spirits" so The Living God should be ok for a Fighter.

Here are the officials légales gods of PFS
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pi2y?Gods-Authorized-for-PFS


MidsouthGuy wrote:

This is my first post, so if it's in the wrong spot, I apologize in advance.

I'm interested in getting involved with organized play, and am wondering how I would go about making a Razmiran character? My idea is for a Lawful Neutral fighter who was raised in Razmiran as a devout worshiper of the "Living God", but since he isn't really a god is that a legal option?

I don't think he's on the list of allowable gods for Society play.

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You're in the right place (but yes, that is VERY easy to mess up)

As a fighter worshiping Razmir offers no problems

Any questions let us know, we have no life.

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Lornis wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, choosing a god is not mandatory if you're not a divine class. So I'm guessing that Razmir is legal as long as you are not casting divine spells or using divine feats/traits. Basically you can be an atheist or a believer "in friendship" or "voodo spirits" so The Living God should be ok for a Fighter.

Here are the officials légales gods of PFS
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pi2y?Gods-Authorized-for-PFS

He's not on the list because he's not a god and you can't get spells from him. That said, Razmian Priest is a legal Sorcerer archetype. I have an idea for a "Razmian Inquisitor" whose class is bard.

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Kerney wrote:
Lornis wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, choosing a god is not mandatory if you're not a divine class. So I'm guessing that Razmir is legal as long as you are not casting divine spells or using divine feats/traits. Basically you can be an atheist or a believer "in friendship" or "voodo spirits" so The Living God should be ok for a Fighter.

Here are the officials légales gods of PFS
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pi2y?Gods-Authorized-for-PFS

He's not on the list because he's not a god and you can't get spells from him. That said, Razmian Priest is a legal Sorcerer archetype. I have an idea for a "Razmian Inquisitor" whose class is bard.

Important note: the archetype is legal, the prestige class is not. I've been toying with the idea of making/cosplaying a Razmiran for awhile now.Actually, I have slightly higher cosplay ambitions these days, but not sure how to pull it off.

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Michael Meunier wrote:
Kerney wrote:
Lornis wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, choosing a god is not mandatory if you're not a divine class. So I'm guessing that Razmir is legal as long as you are not casting divine spells or using divine feats/traits. Basically you can be an atheist or a believer "in friendship" or "voodo spirits" so The Living God should be ok for a Fighter.

Here are the officials légales gods of PFS
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pi2y?Gods-Authorized-for-PFS

He's not on the list because he's not a god and you can't get spells from him. That said, Razmian Priest is a legal Sorcerer archetype. I have an idea for a "Razmian Inquisitor" whose class is bard.
Important note: the archetype is legal, the prestige class is not. I've been toying with the idea of making/cosplaying a Razmiran for awhile now.Actually, I have slightly higher cosplay ambitions these days, but not sure how to pull it off.

Did someone say Razmiran cosplay? (I love how the pictures are all weirdly cropped online. The pictures in the print article weren't. Also that cosplay has been about 80% done for ages and I wasn't ever going to wear it for a photoshoot, but the newspaper needed some cosplayers for the article and I had the spare time and an RPG-related costume...)

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Kerney wrote:
Lornis wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, choosing a god is not mandatory if you're not a divine class. So I'm guessing that Razmir is legal as long as you are not casting divine spells or using divine feats/traits. Basically you can be an atheist or a believer "in friendship" or "voodo spirits" so The Living God should be ok for a Fighter.

Here are the officials légales gods of PFS
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pi2y?Gods-Authorized-for-PFS

He's not on the list because he's not a god and you can't get spells from him. That said, Razmian Priest is a legal Sorcerer archetype. I have an idea for a "Razmian Inquisitor" whose class is bard.

I would totally play the Razmirian Inquisitor - that sounds awesome! I have an 11th Razmirian Priest Sorcerer and it makes for a huge amount of versatility, not least of which is because I never use up my library of divine scrolls, so I only need one of each spell.


BigNorseWolf wrote:

Hello, welcome to the institution

You're in the right place (but yes, that is VERY easy to mess up)

As a fighter worshiping Razmir offers no problems

Any questions let us know, we have no life.

Any suggestions for how I can play up being a devout Razmiran without being a total jerk and causing unneeded party conflict would be a big help too. Razmir and his priests are a pack of greedy thugs disguised as a religion, so maybe be a bit of a miser and open to 'forceful' solutions?

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MidsouthGuy wrote:


Any suggestions for how I can play up being a devout Razmiran without being a total jerk and causing unneeded party conflict would be a big help too. Razmir and his priests are a pack of greedy thugs disguised as a religion, so maybe be a bit of a miser and open to 'forceful' solutions?

Sounds like an exchange member (one of the harry potter houses factions*. you'll fit right in (and the party will kind of expect it of you)

Just rip off an extort the NPCs, not the party, and if you have a paladin or other do goodery type in your party give them plausible deniability: don't shake down the little old lady for cash in front of them, talk to the NPC for a moment alone. Most people are fine with you playing their character as long as you let them play theirs.

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IT's all roleplay if you're a fighter. The only "class" that really has a need to worship Razmir is the Razmirian sorcerer archtype.

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Cory Stafford 29 wrote:
IT's all roleplay if you're a fighter. The only "class" that really has a need to worship Razmir is the Razmirian sorcerer archtype.

Fairly sure there is nothing in the description of the Razmirian Priest that indicates that they need to worship Razmir - In any case, I would expect you can refluff as you see fit - My sorcerer was captured by them, learned their techniques and then escaped to pursue other pursuits that didn't involve hoodwinking a nation and follow his devotion to Desna.


MidsouthGuy wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Hello, welcome to the institution

You're in the right place (but yes, that is VERY easy to mess up)

As a fighter worshiping Razmir offers no problems

Any questions let us know, we have no life.

Any suggestions for how I can play up being a devout Razmiran without being a total jerk and causing unneeded party conflict would be a big help too. Razmir and his priests are a pack of greedy thugs disguised as a religion, so maybe be a bit of a miser and open to 'forceful' solutions?

Being a devoted Razmiran is like being a devoted Scientologist. You have to be willing to scam the suckers out of their money for little to no benefit, and a lot of harm, and be utterly ruthless with those who try to leave the faith.

In other words, being a jerk is a pre-req to being devoted to the biggest con-man/tyrant in Golarion's history.

There's a module that takes you to the inside of the Razmiran cult as you're sent to infiltrate a Razmiran temple and get proof of their activities. It's pretty much all about what it's like to be an actual member of the cult.

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CigarPete wrote:
Fairly sure there is nothing in the description of the Razmirian Priest that indicates that they need to worship Razmir -

You can't mess with the flavor of that archtype for pfs. I can find the ruling on that if you want. I was going to use it for my Aroden worshiping sorcerer.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
CigarPete wrote:
Fairly sure there is nothing in the description of the Razmirian Priest that indicates that they need to worship Razmir -

You can't mess with the flavor of that archtype for pfs. I can find the ruling on that if you want. I was going to use it for my Aroden worshiping sorcerer.

I really don't see a class that's built around fake temporary healing as emblematic of the God of Humanity, but that may be me.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
CigarPete wrote:
Fairly sure there is nothing in the description of the Razmirian Priest that indicates that they need to worship Razmir -

You can't mess with the flavor of that archtype for pfs. I can find the ruling on that if you want. I was going to use it for my Aroden worshiping sorcerer.

Which one is that? I know a Razmiran priest that would like to play in that one.

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Cory Stafford 29 wrote:


Which one is that? I know a Razmiran priest that would like to play in that one.

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Cory Stafford 29 wrote:


Which one is that? I know a Razmiran priest that would like to play in that one.

Masks of the Living God, and I have it actually. 32 pager, and sanctioned for PFS play, levels 2-4. What level is Stefan's Razmiran? We might be able to knock it out on a Sunday if we start a little earlier than normal.

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Can't reskin archetypes

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Christopher Rowe wrote:
Cory Stafford 29 wrote:


Which one is that? I know a Razmiran priest that would like to play in that one.
Masks of the Living God, and I have it actually. 32 pager, and sanctioned for PFS play, levels 2-4. What level is Stefan's Razmiran? We might be able to knock it out on a Sunday if we start a little earlier than normal.

I forgot about that module. For some reason I was thinking their was a PFS scenario with that set up. I'm pretty sure he is still 3rd level.

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MidsouthGuy wrote:

This is my first post, so if it's in the wrong spot, I apologize in advance.

I'm interested in getting involved with organized play, and am wondering how I would go about making a Razmiran character? My idea is for a Lawful Neutral fighter who was raised in Razmiran as a devout worshiper of the "Living God", but since he isn't really a god is that a legal option?

No steps to undertake, just add your deity to the deity box and enjoy.

That said, since he's not technically a deity, this doesn't qualify as a deity selection, it's just a Role Playing backstory thing.

Also, give that he's an Evil "Deity" don't explect other players to be super happy about your deity selection. Depending on how evangelical you are RPing, you may even piss off NPCs, which could make for problems for the entire party.

From a PFS stance, the main concern is that you understand that you can't RP an Evil Character. Doesn't matter if your deity would want it that way, you can't play evil.


Cory Stafford 29 wrote:
Christopher Rowe wrote:
Cory Stafford 29 wrote:


Which one is that? I know a Razmiran priest that would like to play in that one.
Masks of the Living God, and I have it actually. 32 pager, and sanctioned for PFS play, levels 2-4. What level is Stefan's Razmiran? We might be able to knock it out on a Sunday if we start a little earlier than normal.
I forgot about that module. For some reason I was thinking their was a PFS scenario with that set up. I'm pretty sure he is still 3rd level.

Understand that in that module you're looking to expose and destroy the local cult of Razmir... not exactly what a Razmiran should be looking to do.

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I have an Oracle of Battle who is convinced he has been granted 'Paladin' powers by the Living God, all to aid in cleaning up the troublemakers who are trying to ruin Razmirs good name by pretending to be his followers and extorting people. It's a mighty task to restore the gods good name but one he is happy to undertake!

In game this makes him get on pretty well with most parties and should they come across Razmir worshipers he will try and ascertain if they're "true" followers or more of these heretics who extort people (shocker, they almost always are :P), if so it's time for some very angry purging!

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"There's a sucker future faithful born every minute.", P.T. Razmir

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I'm not sure if even Fighters are allowed to worship off-limits deities (or facsimiles thereof) in Pathfinder Society. My interpretation of the rules is that if a god's not allowed in Society Play, you can't worship them regardless of class. There is the "venerates-but-not-actually-worships" loophole I've heard about, but I wouldn't put my faith in it (so to speak).

As far as help conceptualizing a Razmir-related character goes, however, I can offer this: My Razmiran Priest Sorcerer is an apostate who defected to Andoran - scarcely anyone could hate his old religion more than he now does, but he remains 'branded' by the mutations Razmir bestowed on him.

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I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

I'm not sure if even Fighters are allowed to worship off-limits deities (or facsimiles thereof) in Pathfinder Society. My interpretation of the rules is that if a god's not allowed in Society Play, you can't worship them regardless of class. There is the "venerates-but-not-actually-worships" loophole I've heard about, but I wouldn't put my faith in it (so to speak).

As far as help conceptualizing a Razmir-related character goes, however, I can offer this: My Razmiran Priest Sorcerer is an apostate who defected to Andoran - scarcely anyone could hate his old religion more than he now does, but he remains 'branded' by the mutations Razmir bestowed on him.

Not technically a deity, so I don't think the PFS limit on deity alignments applies.

I think the fighter could worship a rock or a tree, and PFS would be fine with that, provided it was just a background/RP thing, not something you expected to gain mechanical benefits for.

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I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

I'm not sure if even Fighters are allowed to worship off-limits deities (or facsimiles thereof) in Pathfinder Society. My interpretation of the rules is that if a god's not allowed in Society Play, you can't worship them regardless of class. There is the "venerates-but-not-actually-worships" loophole I've heard about, but I wouldn't put my faith in it (so to speak).

As far as help conceptualizing a Razmir-related character goes, however, I can offer this: My Razmiran Priest Sorcerer is an apostate who defected to Andoran - scarcely anyone could hate his old religion more than he now does, but he remains 'branded' by the mutations Razmir bestowed on him.

razmir is in the top 3 reasons the venerate thing is around.

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