Urban skald and her rage-fueled buddies

[Ambrus]

The Urban Skald's 'Controlled Inspired Rage' ability modifies the Skald's normal ability to offer different benefits. If a Skald starts her Controlled Inspire Rage Raging Song and the party includes a Barbarian or Bloodrager with their own Rage abilities, would the normal Inspired Rage's ability to allow someone with their own Rage ability to use their Rage benefits instead of the Urban Skald's still apply, or is that part of the "normal benefits" of Inspired Rage?

edit: How about the opposite? Say the Skald has regular Inspired Rage and an allied Barbarian has Controlled Rage. Could the barbarian use his own Rage's Dex bonus instead of the Str & Con bonus normally granted by the Inspire Rage?

[BretI]

Being able to use your own values is part of the normal benefits.

[Darkblitz9]

This seems like more of a dm ruling. Personally i'd allow it to apply as both Rage and Controlled Rage come from the same "source", it's just that controlled rage is tempered by the one raging.

So yes, I'd say that inspiring controlled rage would allow a regular barbarian to use their own personal rage.

[Ambrus]

How about the opposite? Say the Skald has regular Inspired Rage and an allied Barbarian has Controlled Rage. Could the barbarian use his own Rage's Dex bonus instead of the Str & Con bonus normally granted by the Inspire Rage?

[Ambrus]

So one for, one against, no consensus?

[Darkblitz9]

I would say yes. Basically the Skald is giving others the ability to rage without using their personal rage rounds to do it, as the Skald is providing that "spark of anger" so to speak.

As for the one who is raging, they can choose to let their own rage shine, or to be solely inspired by the bards rage.

Effectively, the Bard grants rounds of rage to others, as well as providing an inspired rage for them to use. They don't have to use the inspired rage though, if they have their own version that they prefer.