# Damage question

### Beginner Box

I received the pathfinder beginner box and read through the books. I'm lost when it comes to damage. In the beginner box game masters guide on page 61 for the Orcs. For Melee it says battle axe +5 (1d8 +4/x3). I get the 1d8 is the dice I roll for the damage the Orc deals to me. What does the other terms mean?

Does the battle axe +5 mean the Orc gets five attacks? So I roll 1d20 for 5 times to see how many times the Orc hits me.

Then the 1d8 is the damage role. Do I add 4 points to the roll for each hit. Then is the x3 the critical hit if the Orc rolls a 20 on its attack roll?

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edit srry i missed the middle line the +5 is to hit not 5 attacks but you have it right for the bottom line

edit #2 you can however gain more than one attack from having a higher base attack bonus if you have a BAB of 6 you get one attack at +6 and one at +1 and at 20 BAB you get one at +20,+15,+10 and +5 you can also gain extra attacks from things like haste or speed however to get more than just 1 attack you must take a full attack action

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emtwizard wrote:

I received the pathfinder beginner box and read through the books. I'm lost when it comes to damage. In the beginner box game masters guide on page 61 for the Orcs. For Melee it says battle axe +5 (1d8 +4/x3). I get the 1d8 is the dice I roll for the damage the Orc deals to me. What does the other terms mean?

Does the battle axe +5 mean the Orc gets five attacks? So I roll 1d20 for 5 times to see how many times the Orc hits me.

Then the 1d8 is the damage role. Do I add 4 points to the roll for each hit. Then is the x3 the critical hit if the Orc rolls a 20 on its attack roll?

The +5 means that, when you roll the d20 to see if the orc hits, you add +5 to the roll. So, to see if the orc hits, your roll 1d20+5 and compare to the targets armor class. If the orc got multiple attacks, there would be more than one number here, something like "battle axe +6/+1", meaning 2 attacks - one you add +6 to the d20 roll, the other you add +1.

If the orc hits, you roll damage. In this case, he does 1d8 damage, plus an additional +4 damage. 1d8+4.

The x3 is how many times you roll damage if the orc succeeds on a critical hit.

Sometimes this part will show 2 numbers, like 19-20/x2. In that case, the numbers before the slash (in this case, 19-20) are the numbers that threaten a critical hit. So if the d20 roll to attack comes up a 19 or a 20 (the actual die itself, not the total after you add any modifiers), a possible critical hit is threatened.

The +5 means you roll 1D20 one time and add five to the result. the 1D8+4 means if that 1D20+5 equaled or exceeded the value of your AC than roll the 1D8, add 4 points and apply that number as damage. the X3 means if you roll a 20 before adding the +5 you roll again and if that second number with the +5 added to it equals AC than you died. (really it means roll 3D8+12 which is about the same thing.)

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axe attack: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (20) + 5 = 25

If attack hits?
axe damage: 1d8 + 4 ⇒ (3) + 4 = 7

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Wow, a perfect example!

That top roll is a critical threat,
attack roll to confirm critical: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (20) + 5 = 25

possible extra critical hit damage: 2d8 + 8 ⇒ (1, 2) + 8 = 11

Wow! I need this luck in my real games!

That's a total of 18 damage from the Orc.

Wow, thanks for all the input. This helps to clear up some stuff for me.

GeraintElberion wrote:

Wow, a perfect example!

That top roll is a critical threat,
[dice=attack roll to confirm critical]1d20+5

[dice=possible extra critical hit damage]2d8+8

2X Crit is one extra damage dice + modifiers, 3X Crit is two extra damage dice and two times modifiers.

Bacondale wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:

Wow, a perfect example!

That top roll is a critical threat,
[dice=attack roll to confirm critical]1d20+5

[dice=possible extra critical hit damage]2d8+8

2X Crit is one extra damage dice + modifiers, 3X Crit is two extra damage dice and two times modifiers.

it took me a second to get it but he has it right, the 2D8+8 is extra damage, notice how the total in that 2nd post is 11 but he added it to the original 7 from his first post to come up with the 18 in his third post.