Okay, so I'm looking into something and I can't figure it out for PFS.
Say I'm a level 5 bloodrager. And I have a scroll of heroism.
If I have int 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?
If I have wis 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?
If I have cha 12 can I cast it?
Or do I need a 13 cha to cast it?
What you need depends on how it was crafted.
If it was created as an arcane scroll, then you need 13 CHA to activate it. You may also need to make a caster level check, if it was crafted by anybody but a wizard. It utilizes your casting stat even if the crafter uses a different one.
If it was created as a divine scroll (such as by Inquisitors), you cannot cast it the typical way, and must use Use Magic Device.
It does not matter what spell level it was for the crafter, that applies only for costs. What ability score you need depends on what spell level it is for you.
For PFS, the arcane/divine split is ignored, and every scroll is arbitrarily all three types at all times. So you just need the 13 CHA.
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The scroll was scribed by a Wizard, so you'd need an Int of 13.
Although PFS simplified the matter by making all scrolls "Arcane" or "Divine" (and now presumably "Psychic", although that's not described anywhere), there's still a hierarchy of what spell list was used for determining caster level.
It's obviously not a perfect system. Some options fall through the cracks.
So I need to use CHA since that's the class I'm casting it from? Makes sense, but was hopeful that another stat could work.
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Unfortunately, Read Magic is not on your spell list. To be honest, that omission surprises me, since every other arcane and divine caster seems to have it. If it were on your list, I would recommend buying a wand of Read Magic for 375 GP, but as it is, I might suggest the trait Magical Talent. At least then you would be able to cast Read Magic once per day, making scroll use much easier.
Well a multiclassed bloodrager that goes to 5 and then switches classes only gets level 1 spells, so only needs an 11 to cast his spells. Spelleater doesn't need a positive charisma for it's stuff. So you could have gone a smart or wise bloodrager and never use charisma. Thus being able to use that int or wis for the scroll would be handy.
yes it's not optimized, but it's not crippling to try this, especially if the scroll casting worked out for you.
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(and now presumably "Psychic", although that's not described anywhere)Normally the campaign does not distinguish between arcane and divine scrolls. With the addition of psychic scrolls, the organized play campaign now does not distinguish between arcane, divine, and psychic scrolls; they are effectively interchangeable.
Spelleater doesn't need a positive charisma for it's stuff.
Where are you getting that idea? The Spell Eating ability consumes spell slots. If your charisma is less than 11, you have no spell slots to consume.
Okay, so I'm looking into something and I can't figure it out for PFS.
Say I'm a level 5 bloodrager. And I have a scroll of heroism.
If I have int 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?
If I have wis 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?
If I have cha 12 can I cast it?
Or do I need a 13 cha to cast it?
I want to convince the scroll I am a blood rager that is pretty enough to cast the spell. I Can convince the scroll i'm a blood rager I need nothing. To convince it i'm pretty enough to cast the scroll its a dc (15+13) or 28 use magic device check
alternately I AM smart enough to cast it. I can convince the scroll i'm a wizard smart enough to cast it. Already smrt enough to cast it, dc is 20+spell level so 23 UMD check..
Use the second one.
Spelleater doesn't need a positive charisma for it's stuff.Where are you getting that idea? The Spell Eating ability consumes spell slots. If your charisma is less than 11, you have no spell slots to consume.
You always have your base slots, just not any extra from having a high casting stat. You can't cast any spells from those slots since your charisma isn't high enough, but you still have the slots to consume.
Okay, so I'm looking into something and I can't figure it out for PFS.
Say I'm a level 5 bloodrager. And I have a scroll of heroism.
If I have int 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?
If I have wis 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?
If I have cha 12 can I cast it?
Or do I need a 13 cha to cast it?I want to convince the scroll I am a blood rager that is pretty enough to cast the spell. I Can convince the scroll i'm a blood rager I need nothing. To convince it i'm pretty enough to cast the scroll its a dc (15+13) or 28 use magic device check
alternately I AM smart enough to cast it. I can convince the scroll i'm a wizard smart enough to cast it. Already smrt enough to cast it, dc is 20+spell level so 23 UMD check..
Use the second one.
Maybe I should have explicitly said, without using UMD.
Maybe I should have explicitly said, without using UMD.
Without UMD i would say no. The arcane/divine/psycic agnostic nature of the scrolls is to keep people from having to track treasure like that, not to let people dump stats.
Sorry, isn't heroism on the bloodrager list? So you would just use the CL check to cast from the scroll? Since the bloodrager is level 5 it is the same as the scroll. The only hangup would be the ability score, and he says he's got that.
So no UMD, no check at all. It just happens.
He doesn't have the ability score that a bloodrager would need to cast the spell.
Sorry, isn't heroism on the bloodrager list? So you would just use the CL check to cast from the scroll? Since the bloodrager is level 5 it is the same as the scroll. The only hangup would be the ability score, and he says he's got that.
So no UMD, no check at all. It just happens.
If I have int 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?
If I have wis 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?If I have cha 12 can I cast it?
Or do I need a 13 cha to cast it?
Sorry, isn't heroism on the bloodrager list? So you would just use the CL check to cast from the scroll? Since the bloodrager is level 5 it is the same as the scroll. The only hangup would be the ability score, and he says he's got that.
So no UMD, no check at all. It just happens.
If I have int 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?
If I have wis 13 and cha 7 can I cast it?
If I have cha 12 can I cast it?
Or do I need a 13 cha to cast it?
Since you are a Bloodrager, you need 13 CHA to cast it.