Character and Cohort relations


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I'm looking for advice on how this would work. This character that l'm playing is Lawful Evil(of the "I'll kill people to keep the stability" variety) in a Good/Neutral (not Neutral Good) campaign. It's a long campaign and is pretty much a sandbox game. My character has plans to found his own kingdom, and he would like to do so with a Queen by his side. The NPC that he's currently enamored with though is a Neutral Good wizard, enchantment spec. While this screams role-play opportunity, how would it work mechanically? I have no intention of changing alignments, and I doubt she does either, so how would I take her as a cohort? I'll be taking the Leadership feat next level, at 7th. I feel like there wouldn't be much of a conflict of interest, alignment-wise, since he does respect her for her power over others, considers her a peer, and would of course never betray her.

As a side note, he does harbor secret feelings of suspicion that she might have enchanted him somehow to fall in love with her, but so far Detect Magic and spells of the like have shown nothing.


By the rules, you cannot take her as a cohort because you are evil and she is good. You also could not take a cohort that is chaotic.

I would certainly expect a neutral good person to have a conflict of interest with someone who 'respected her for her power over others.'

"You would be a great enforcer for my kingdom, beautiful."

"Ick, get away from me you jack-booted thug."

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Ah... So maybe if I somehow corrupted her to being True Neutral before taking her as my character's consort--I mean cohort...

Would that be possible then?


Needs to be within 1 step sadly. LN works

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Ok, so I just found the entry for Leadership I was looking for. You're right about the cohort not able to be Neutral Good, because of the Good part, but as long as they're not actually opposed to my alignment, I'm ok. It's just if the cohort I'm trying to attract is a different alignment than mine, my Leadership score is -1. Since True Neutral isn't actually opposed to Lawful Evil, I think I'm ok. Anything Good or Chaotic would be out.


Dastis wrote:
Needs to be within 1 step sadly. LN works

Incorrect. It just can't be diametrically opposed on either axis.

So a True Neutral can be a cohort of a Lawful Evil.


Alright. I was wrong. Enjoy your cohort :D


Prismatic Codex wrote:

I'm looking for advice on how this would work. This character that l'm playing is Lawful Evil(of the "I'll kill people to keep the stability" variety) in a Good/Neutral (not Neutral Good) campaign. It's a long campaign and is pretty much a sandbox game. My character has plans to found his own kingdom, and he would like to do so with a Queen by his side. The NPC that he's currently enamored with though is a Neutral Good wizard, enchantment spec. While this screams role-play opportunity, how would it work mechanically? I have no intention of changing alignments, and I doubt she does either, so how would I take her as a cohort? I'll be taking the Leadership feat next level, at 7th. I feel like there wouldn't be much of a conflict of interest, alignment-wise, since he does respect her for her power over others, considers her a peer, and would of course never betray her.

As a side note, he does harbor secret feelings of suspicion that she might have enchanted him somehow to fall in love with her, but so far Detect Magic and spells of the like have shown nothing.

You don't need to impose a feat mechanic to have a roleplaying relationship with an NPC. Becoming a cohort is essentially someone becoming your subserviant flunky. Maybe that's not in the cards for her. That doesn't meant that your character and the NPC can't have a relationship, the GM however may determine that it's one of equals instead of master/servant which is what a leader/cohort is.


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Sounds like you are the one enamored with her - so it seems it far more likely that you would be the cohort in the relationship, or at the very least, be the one to shift a step in alignment.


What class are you, because Unnatural Lust might help you out. Well at least help bring her to the dark side.

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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
You don't need to impose a feat mechanic to have a roleplaying relationship with an NPC. Becoming a cohort is essentially someone becoming your subserviant flunky. Maybe that's not in the cards for her. That doesn't meant that your character and the NPC can't have a relationship, the GM however may determine that it's one of equals instead of master/servant which is what a leader/cohort is.

Cohorts don't have to be subservient flunkies - they can absolutely be loyal partners or significant others.

You just need to work things out so that the cohort generally does what the player (not necessarily the PC) wants them to do. That could mean making sure that the cohort has similar goals and methods to the PC so there isn't much disagreement, or having the player run both so that they are in control of any significant disagreements.

You can even justify giving the cohort less of the spotlight pretty easily if you want, since they'll be slightly less powerful than the PC and often have lower charisma.

It may or may not work out for this NPC, but it's certainly a possibility if OP roleplays it well enough.

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