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No, I didn't. Read closer.
*rubs eyes*
...every non-issue that people like you elevate to a crisis...
Yup, still there.
BTW, I think this is the part where you complain about this website being unreasonably left wing and go off in a huff.
No, I didn't. Read closer.*rubs eyes*
...every non-issue that people like you elevate to a crisis...Yup, still there.
BTW, I think this is the part where you complain about this website being unreasonably left wing and go off in a huff.
Nah, I'll walk you through it step-by-step if you like, but I think you should make a real effort to figure it out on your own first. I believe in you!
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Let's knock off the back and forth there. We'd rather not have to resort to post removals/timeouts and locking because discussions can't be civil. Focus on the issues being discussed, not making jabs at each other.
10-4 Chris.
Let's knock off the back and forth there. We'd rather not have to resort to post removals/timeouts and locking because discussions can't be civil. Focus on the issues being discussed, not making jabs at each other.
Oh my Cos', we've got another 103 days until Election Day. I need to fire up Zillow and find a comfy rock to hide under.
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A Presidential candidate providing public support for a foreign government's cyber espionage efforts against his own country is a huge issue. There is no way around this. There is no room for meaningful debate. This is a very, very real problem.
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A Presidential candidate providing public support for a foreign government's cyber espionage efforts against his own country is a huge issue. There is no way around this. There is no room for meaningful debate. This is a very, very real problem.
I didn't read his original comment as supporting foreign espionage. I read it as critiquing Clinton's email security. Sort of, "Hilary's server was so bad. Hey Russians I bet you hacked her loads of times while she was Secretary. Give us what you found!"
What is worrying is how he reacted when he was pressed on it. He didn't clarify his meaning, didn't condemn the DNC hack, didn't acknowledge that encouraging foreign espionage would be wrong and illegal. His behavior underlines just how irresponsible he is. Trump is a problem.
Let's knock off the back and forth there. We'd rather not have to resort to post removals/timeouts and locking because discussions can't be civil. Focus on the issues being discussed, not making jabs at each other.Oh my Cos', we've got another 103 days until Election Day. I need to fire up Zillow and find a comfy rock to hide under.
And yet his numbers won't take a hit. Just goes to show that his supporters don't actually care about little things like the law.Donald Trump literally just told Russia to hack a former Secretary of State in order to obtain what he hopes is classified information, and promised they'd be rewarded for doing so.
That actually just happened.
It's not his supporters that matter. It's the persuadable middle.
It also doesn't matter because he doesn't get challenged on it. Not the kind of repetition that actually brings it to people's minds.
His campaign manager has also just said he's not going to release any tax returns. Standard practice for every candidate in decades. Who knows what he's hiding. You've got to assume that whatever it is, it's worse than the optics of not releasing them.
Two possible things he may be hiding by doing so.
1. Financial links between himself and Putin
2. That Hillary Clinton last year made more money than he did.
A Presidential candidate providing public support for a foreign government's cyber espionage efforts against his own country is a huge issue. There is no way around this. There is no room for meaningful debate. This is a very, very real problem.
There is no meaningful debate in this campaign. Thats the official trump motto.
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Or, you know, that some people can recognize an obvious joke.
The fact that the media is presenting an obvious joke like this as a serious proposal
The media has been presenting an obvious joke as a serious proposal since they started covering his campaign.
No reason to change it up now.
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Bill O'Reily's response to Michelle Obama's speech.
Well Bill, I guess that makes it OK, then.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
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Just goes to show that his supporters don't actually care about little things like the law.
And yet if you or I (or anyone else on these boards), were as "negligent" with top level security as Mrs. Clinton, we'd have been thrown into the deepest, darkest of prisons before you could say "scandal"!
Just look at Gen. Patraeus... All he did was share TS emails with a single person, and he was coerced into resigning from the C.I.A. Not only was Hilary accused of sharing TS emails with several people, her account is said to have been hacked by Russia!
Just goes to show that her supporters don't actually care about little things like the law.
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Just look at Gen. Patraeus... All he did was share TS emails with a single person, and he was coerced into resigning from the C.I.A. Not only was Hilary accused of sharing TS emails with several people,
Being accused of something is irrelevant. The investigation(s) found no evidence of her having actually done that.
her account is said to have been hacked by Russia!
Again... people can say anything. There is no evidence of that having actually happened here in reality.
Just goes to show that her supporters don't actually care about little things like the law.
Requiring evidence is step one in caring about the law. And/or rationale thinking.
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And yet if you or I (or anyone else on these boards), were as "negligent" with top level security as Mrs. Clinton, we'd have been thrown into the deepest, darkest of prisons before you could say "scandal"!
And if I got 5,000 americans and 100,000 iraqi citizens killed to make my company billions of dollars I'd be a war criminal and shot for treason.
You can do things at the top that you can't do at the bottom. That's a fact of life and treating hillary's emails as the worst thing a politican has ever done, or even in the top 100 bad things a politician has ever done is patently absurd.
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And yet if you or I (or anyone else on these boards), were as "negligent" with top level security as Mrs. Clinton, we'd have been thrown into the deepest, darkest of prisons before you could say "scandal"!
Just look at Gen. Patraeus... All he did was share TS emails with a single person, and he was coerced into resigning from the C.I.A. Not only was Hilary accused of sharing TS emails with several people, her account is said to have been hacked by Russia!
Just goes to show that her supporters don't actually care about little things like the law.
I know, right! Look at all that time Patraeus -- who was actually guilty -- got!
On top of this, Trump is either now or shortly will start receiving Top Secret classified information. If this idea does not frighten you, then you need to think harder about the ramifications.
That doesn't scare me nearly as much as Hillary receiving it. She might be dusting off her private server.
Anyone else seeing a popular vote victory for trump but an electoral landslide for hillary?
It would take some very very weird circumstances for something like that to come about. For one thing, Clinton is nowhere near the incompetent campaigner that Gore was.
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That doesn't scare me nearly as much as Hillary receiving it. She might be dusting off her private server.
I don't know how secure that thing was but it probably beats Trumps Twitter account.
The private server thing is a complete non issue. If you're angry about it or bringing it up you've been tricked into being angry about it because there's nothing substantive to attack.
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And yet if you or I (or anyone else on these boards), were as "negligent" with top level security as Mrs. Clinton, we'd have been thrown into the deepest, darkest of prisons before you could say "scandal"!p
I'm so sick of hearing this. No, you would not. If you had done what Clinton did, you absolutely would not be "thrown into the deepest, darkest of prisons." That's insane. No one actually familiar with the law believes this. It's only angry, woke-as-all-hell laypeople who believe they understand how the world works. They get it.
You would probably receive some form of administrative sanction if it ever came to public light. Security leakage happens. The only reason you would suffer anything more extensive - like a congressional investigation leading to an FBI inquiry - is if you're a powerful enough political figure to have made enemies out of the entire Republican Party.
her account is said to have been hacked by Russia!
Trump is saying that. The only real suspicion by security experts is that Russia hacked the DNC.
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People. Stop. This isn't funny any more. We are flirting with disaster.
I know we're all jaded by the incessant hyperbole in politics, but Trump is genuinely dangerous. He is fascist, racist, sexist, and a gleeful authoritarian. If you don't believe me, don't take my word for it. Don't take the media's word for it. Just look at what Trump himself has said. Take *his* word for it.
Opposition to the cynical demagoguery Mr. Trump is selling has to transcend partisan bickering. This man must never be president.
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The private server thing is a complete non issue.And if Russians DO provide emails originating from her account?
What about it? They hack the pentagon on a regular basis.
As the secretary of state she's making/acting on big policy decisions, policies that are pretty obvious, hard to hide, and don't have specifics. "our spies in iran indicate that..." OMG we ave SPIES in iran! GASP! Not Yousiff Amin at 457 west Date street Qom 14897 sent an email saying...
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The private server thing is a complete non issue.And if Russia DOES provide emails originating from her account?
Depends whether they did it specifically at Mr. Trump's behest. In which case, criminal charges might actually be in order...
...for Mr. Trump.
The private server thing is a complete non issue.And if Russia DOES provide emails originating from her account?
Then Trump will really regret this morning's press conference.
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On top of this, Trump is either now or shortly will start receiving Top Secret classified information. If this idea does not frighten you, then you need to think harder about the ramifications.That doesn't scare me nearly as much as Hillary receiving it. She might be dusting off her private server.
Or breaking out the private servers that the Bush administration used all during the Bush presidency. Karl Rove deleted all 22 million emails off of those when they were being investigated, so they are clean as a whistle and ready to use.
But mostly I don't care. Obama & Biden up tonight.
The night's supposed to be about security & foreign policy, IIRC.
Let's see if the Democrats have something more substantive than "murder the terrorist's families."
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Awesome! The FLOTUS is speaking again?
Oh, you meant Barack Obama. That's cool, too.
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What is worrying is how he reacted when he was pressed on it. He didn't clarify his meaning, didn't condemn the DNC hack, didn't acknowledge that encouraging foreign espionage would be wrong and illegal. His behavior underlines just how irresponsible he is. Trump is a problem.
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Awesome! The FLOTUS is speaking again?
Oh, you meant Barack Obama. That's cool, too.
or Ivana Trump. I'm just watching the transcript go by and can't tell the difference.
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I like Mike Rowe's take on the 'plagiarism' of speeches.
There are far bigger things to worry about than where the speechwriters cribbed their stuff from.
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I like Mike Rowe's take on the 'plagiarism' of speeches.
There are far bigger things to worry about than where the speechwriters cribbed their stuff from.
It's not actually that she plagiarized that I think is important. If her speech had been a copy from some famous, widely admired speaker, I really wouldn't care.
It's the fact that she took a speech from someone the Republican party has spent 8 years demeaning.
Imagine you told me a joke. I told you the joke was stupid and crass. I proceeded to berate you for how bad the joke was in front of other people. Then I turned around and told the joke to someone else. You probably wouldn't care about the last part if I hadn't done the first part.
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Why not, Chris?
The Republican Candidate for President of the United States has made that argument on TV. There's a very real chance it could be US policy this time next year. How can we even pretend it's not acceptable? Will we not be able to talk about actual policy?That may be the worst thing about Trump. That he's make the unthinkable necessary to consider. That policies Bush wouldn't have considered are now mainstream debate.
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