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I played this game for a very long time and...the last session my mind just gone crazy about cover.

I prepared a paint image to explain my doubts on this topic and i hope you can clear my mind on this.
Thank you in advice.

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In the image we have 3 squares.
RED = Archer
BLUE = Enemy Archer
BROWN = column

I'm sure, by rules, that if BLUE attacks RED...RED has cover.
But...if RED attacks BLUE...BLUE has not cover right?

Second question:

RED = Gunslinger
BLUE = Enemy Archer
BROWN = Barbarian (ally of gunslinger)

Same situation.
Who have cover? And why?

I know my english suck...but i hope is comprehensible.
Again, Thank you for your answers.

Sczarni

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In all situations Red has a clear shot on blue and blue has to deal with cover to hit red.

For ranged attacks you pick 1 corner of your square and draw a line to every corner of your target's square. If all are clear you're clear. If any are blocked then you're dealing with cover.
Red can pick his bottom corner and has clear lines to all of blue's corners. Blue picks any corner and at least 1 line goes through the brown square, so has to deal with cover.

It doesn't matter what brown is. Red team, blue team, tree, bush, etc.

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Chess Pwn is correct. I am not sure why the post was flagged. The link went to a diagram of what the OP was describing.


jerdog wrote:
Chess Pwn is correct. I am not sure why the post was flagged. The link went to a diagram of what the OP was describing.

It is possible the OP had the wrong link and only noticed it was wrong when nefreet mentioned it. Then edited the link without putting an edit tag at the end of their post. OR the website had different content and has now been updated to the correct content.


Chess Pwn wrote:

In all situations Red has a clear shot on blue and blue has to deal with cover to hit red.

For ranged attacks you pick 1 corner of your square and draw a line to every corner of your target's square. If all are clear you're clear. If any are blocked then you're dealing with cover.
Red can pick his bottom corner and has clear lines to all of blue's corners. Blue picks any corner and at least 1 line goes through the brown square, so has to deal with cover.

It doesn't matter what brown is. Red team, blue team, tree, bush, etc.

So...if one line overlay with a border or an obstacle is fine because they don't cross paths?


correct. You're going along an obstacle, not crossing an obstacle.

Sczarni

When I click the link (still) it takes me to an image hosting site with multiple lewd advertisements, some of which are rather grotesque.

Am I the only one seeing this?


You know what, I bet it's my Ad Blocker or something. It says it blocked 10 ads on that page. Because when I go I see the image and three pictures on the side. A girl in a tan dress with a white car, a bunch of money, and a doll girls face.

Scarab Sages

Nefreet wrote:

When I click the link (still) it takes me to an image hosting site with multiple lewd advertisements, some of which are rather grotesque.

Am I the only one seeing this?

Are you really using the internet without adblockers? Amazing. I find the modern internet almost entirely unusable without adblocking.


Image without annoying and/or lewd ads. I wasn't seeing any of those, but I thought I'd share the image via a different site in case anyone else still had problems.

In this situation:

O'Mouza wrote:

RED = Gunslinger

BLUE = Enemy Archer
BROWN = Barbarian (ally of gunslinger)

I believe the Red Gunslinger can shoot the blue archer without a problem. Should the blue archer try and shoot the red gunslinger, then the gunslinger benefits from soft cover since the blue archer has to draw an "aiming line" through the square occupied by the brown barbarian.

If we instead had this:

RED = Gunslinger
BLUE = Enemy Archer
BROWN = Enemy Barbarian

The Red gunslinger is threatened by the brown barbarian. The blue archer tries to shoot the red gunslinger. The gunslinger gains +4 AC for soft cover and the archer has −4 for shooting into melee (unless, of course, possessing feats to mitigate that).

Sczarni

Murdock Mudeater wrote:
Are you really using the internet without adblockers? Amazing.

Tone down the snark, please.

My phone usually blocks ads, but not when I click the above link, for whatever reason.


I'm sorry for the problem with the hosting site...if you know another one better and without ads i'll use that from now on.

Another question: If i have Cover i'm "immune" to AoO.

...But all type of cover give me this "immunity"? Even soft or partial cover?

Sczarni

Just use Google Drive.


Nefreet wrote:
Just use Google Drive.

Ok...now, can you give me an answer please?

What type of cover i must have to avoid AoO?

Thank you in advice.


All types of cover give you immunity to AoO from the guy you have cover from. So if Blue was a guy with 30ft reach, then you'd not provoke from him since you have a form of cover from him.

Scarab Sages

Nefreet wrote:
Murdock Mudeater wrote:
Are you really using the internet without adblockers? Amazing.

Tone down the snark, please.

My phone usually blocks ads, but not when I click the above link, for whatever reason.

I was teasing. Sorry if offense was taken.

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