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So sounds like there is a tier 7. Does this mean you get bonus feats (in tier 7) for more scenarios? Could you be forced into Tier 8?

So my Bard from SnS (tier 7) can play in WotR Set 6, I'm guessing if she does every scenario she would auto tier again and be unplayable?

Does this mean I just have to be careful not to Tier again?


Slacker2010 wrote:

So sounds like there is a tier 7. Does this mean you get bonus feats (in tier 7) for more scenarios? Could you be forced into Tier 8?

So my Bard from SnS (tier 7) can play in WotR Set 6, I'm guessing if she does every scenario she would auto tier again and be unplayable?

You can run a tier 7 character in adventure 6. This is how my group played SotS and SotR. You get feats for tier 7 just like any other tier.

When your tier 7 character completes adventure 6, they advance to tier 8. This character could then play 1-P from SotR, because the adventure number for that scenario is 7. But you're right, a tier 8 character can't play any other scenario from the season.

This was fine with us. Once we were done with the season, we were ready to start the next season with new characters. How long do you intend to continue playing the same character?


elcoderdude wrote:
You can run a tier 7 character in adventure 6. This is how my group played SotS and SotR. You get feats for tier 7 just like any other tier.

Just confirming. Appeared to be the logical progression.

elcoderdude wrote:
How long do you intend to continue playing the same character?

Not really planning on playing her. Currently two players in my area have finished WotR. Due to the release of certain class decks at specific times, the group of players finishing WotR in the next week, along with the two finished, consist of:

Harsk (Ranger) x2
Raz (Paladin)
Seelah (Paladin)
Tarlin (Cleric)

As you can see we are divine heavy. So since my character (Tarlin) has completed WotR, I could replay the scenarios with Tarlin or I could bring Siwar and try to bring some more versatility. Also, I think I will make sure she never finishes another Tier just to keep around incase.

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Wow! Congrats on getting Siwar to Tier 7! That's very impressive!

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I also have a tier 7 Siwar, which was VERY difficult. She's an easy person to get killed. LOL

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Then congrats to you as well! I will be extra impressed if either of you leveled her through the Worldwound.


I feel her Manipulator role was AWESOME. As long as the monster can be evaded she is in no danger.

I rarely got to my turn with large hand (even with hand size 7). If I encountered a monster that could NOT be evaded I would use my weapon or spell (I had one weapon and one combat spell in my deck) while recharging a card for my combat check. Normally I could recharge an Ally for their effect also. So the few times a non-evadable monster wiped my hand it wasn't very large.

I feel the scariest time to play her is Tier 1. She starts with no weapons and only 3 spells (one of with is probably a cure).

@Eliandra - Mine was in SnS. But all Army's have the skirmish trait so her ability works on them.

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Oh, I'm still impressed. I thought about trying her in S&S, but then I saw that second scenario with all the sharks and thought, "Nope."


HaHa, I remember seating myself to go last. Then I would recharge every card in my hand to help others so when it was my turn I couldn't get eaten.


I recently expressed interested in perhaps taking the "Siwar challenge" soon. Nice to here that it has been done.

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Eliandra Giltessan wrote:
Oh, I'm still impressed. I thought about trying her in S&S, but then I saw that second scenario with all the sharks and thought, "Nope."

I played The Lone Shark with another person's Siwar and we had no trouble. The group teamed up so Siwar could play as many of her cards as possible before her turn (whether for their ability or for her recharge-for-d4s power) so she had (almost) nothing to lose on her turns.

Getting others to do her dirty work is Siwar's main power, after all. :)


Hawkmoon269 wrote:
I recently expressed interested in perhaps taking the "Siwar challenge" soon. Nice to here that it has been done.

There is a Siwar challenge?

She is not that hard to play. The hardest part was starting with her card list before you can add feats. Once you get some feats you can see how awesome she is.

Parody wrote:
I played The Lone Shark with another person's Siwar and we had no trouble. The group teamed up so Siwar could play as many of her cards as possible before her turn (whether for their ability or for her recharge-for-d4s power) so she had (almost) nothing to lose on her turns.

Great minds think alike.


I'm not saying it is something so hard that people don't do it. But she generally seems to be viewed as one of the characters that would be most difficult to keep alive or to make a contribution to the overall progress of the scenario, largely due to the limited number of spells in her deck and the difficulty she might have in reliably and consistently making a combat check. I know combat checks aren't the be all and end all. (I had a very nice servitor demon appear for Radillo 3 times from 1 encounter with Demonic Horde. And being it was that one with the constitution check, I just politely put my hand in my discard pile and we moved on.) But she does seem to be a slightly more nuanced character to play.

I've been responsible for killing my fair share of characters, and would like to see if my play style can mesh with her character.

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Mine was also in Season of the Shackles (though I'm working on running her through Season of the Righteous chapter 6 right now so that I can unlock Alain... so far it's gone as horribly as I expected. LOL)


cartmanbeck wrote:
Mine was also in Season of the Shackles (though I'm working on running her through Season of the Righteous chapter 6 right now so that I can unlock Alain... so far it's gone as horribly as I expected. LOL)

I did 1-6e and 1-6c with her last night to help others finish off WotR.

1-6e was not fun due to "Rasping Rifts" making all Henchman non-evadable. Still I was at the "Gate of the World Wound" until I got my hand set up, including a "Fortune Teller". By calling "boon" each round I could ensure I didn't get any non-evadable monsters.

1-6c we powered through fairly easily.

She was not nearly as good as I thought she would be. Maybe nostalgia, is affecting my judgement.

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New Siwar challenge*

Tier 7, Righteous only, solo all the way.

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*Bonus points for completing the extra scenario!


Andrew L Klein wrote:

New Siwar challenge*

Tier 7, Righteous only, solo all the way.

That is crazy and only someone that hated themselves would attempt that.

Honestly the only reason I probably won't play Siwar in WotR (not solo, as mentioned above that is crazy) is due to time constraints. There are so many other characters I want to try, I would need to quit my job to have the time to cycle around to her again. Granted she has been my favorite so far.


I'm actually playing her in Season of the Righteous right now. She is absolutely awesome when paired with a character who is solid with combat checks. I sometimes refer to her as an ally dispenser as I tend to pass off my ally cards to other characters (Seelah loves hanging out with bestie bard). On the other hand, I've had people pass excess weapons, spells, etc to Siwar when their hands get clogged. The only real downside to her is that I usually only explore once per turn at most.


Andrew L Klein wrote:

New Siwar challenge*

Tier 7, Righteous only, solo all the way.

BEGIN

*Bonus points for completing the extra scenario!

This actually sounds... fun? I might bring a friend for Siwar (which wouldn't make it solo, but I want to play easy mode - er, easy-ish mode). Of course, I'd have to buy the Bard deck first.

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Rebel Song wrote:
Of course, I'd have to buy the Bard deck first.

The Bard deck was my first ever PACG purchase. I was gearing up for last year's GenCon. Less than a year ago, and it still feels like ancient times...

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Slacker2010 wrote:
Andrew L Klein wrote:

New Siwar challenge*

Tier 7, Righteous only, solo all the way.

That is crazy and only someone that hated themselves would attempt that.

Honestly the only reason I probably won't play Siwar in WotR (not solo, as mentioned above that is crazy) is due to time constraints. There are so many other characters I want to try, I would need to quit my job to have the time to cycle around to her again. Granted she has been my favorite so far.

I apparently hate myself, because WWWWWHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LET'S DO THIS!!!

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Andrew L Klein wrote:

New Siwar challenge*

Tier 7, Righteous only, solo all the way.

BEGIN

*Bonus points for completing the extra scenario!

You're not going to stipulate that she take the Courtier role, too? I mean, it's all help-other-characters stuff.

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James McKendrew wrote:
Andrew L Klein wrote:

New Siwar challenge*

Tier 7, Righteous only, solo all the way.

BEGIN

*Bonus points for completing the extra scenario!

You're not going to stipulate that she take the Courtier role, too? I mean, it's all help-other-characters stuff.

Psh, of course not, that'd be cruel and unusual punishment

*Note to self: Require Courtier role after someone does this... ;P

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