Venture-Captain, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East
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Secondary question: normally when you play a pregen for a character who isn't in tier yet you hold off on applying anything on it till you match level. Does that still apply to this pregen? (Can my level 3 who's got this waiting for them at level 4 play the pregen in a 1-5)?
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First Question - While I do not have official confirmation for this, I would assume that this is actually a player boon and not a character boon, especially since after applying this chronicle sheet it will soon become impossible for that character to get pregen credit from the kobolds. Remember, you can't apply pregen credit to a character that's higher level than the pregen you played.
Second Question - Yes, that's part of the pregen credit rules.
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It depends on when you applied it to that character. If he was already 3 when you played, then it would be applied immediately. The chronicle is for 3-5. If he was 1-2 at the time you played then you'd wait until 4th lvl to apply it.
I have to disagree. The official rule...
If you play a non-1st-level pregenerated character, you choose one of your characters to assign the chronicle to at the end of adventure, and then apply the credit to your character as soon as she reaches the level of the pregenerated character played.
*emphasis mine
I'm pretty sure the error about applying when you reach the tier is from some older version of the rules. I do not know when it changed (or if it even did), but pregen credit is applied when the PC reached the level of the pregen not the tier in which the game was played. In most cases, this means level 4 or 7, but there has been at least one occurance (Dawn of the Scarlet Sun) of pregens at a non-(PFS)-standard level.
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Ah, I was looking for that post from John.
Just to be clear (because I think that the question is being read two ways)
The post kinevon linked to applies for the chronicle sheet for True Dragons, the chronicle sheet you get when you use the kobold pregen outside of True Dragon uses the standard pregen rules.
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It depends on when you applied it to that character. If he was already 3 when you played, then it would be applied immediately. The chronicle is for 3-5. If he was 1-2 at the time you played then you'd wait until 4th lvl to apply it.I have to disagree. The official rule...
If you play a non-1st-level pregenerated character, you choose one of your characters to assign the chronicle to at the end of adventure, and then apply the credit to your character as soon as she reaches the level of the pregenerated character played.*emphasis mine
I'm pretty sure the error about applying when you reach the tier is from some older version of the rules. I do not know when it changed (or if it even did), but pregen credit is applied when the PC reached the level of the pregen not the tier in which the game was played. In most cases, this means level 4 or 7, but there has been at least one occurance (Dawn of the Scarlet Sun) of pregens at a non-(PFS)-standard level.
Eh, I think you both may be a bit off. My interpretation on how applying chronicles for pregen-only scenarios is that one can apply the chronicle to characters in the tier of the scenario. So, in the case of True Dragons, someone that plays it can apply it to one of their third, fourth, or fifth level characters. If they don't have one in that level range they can choose to apply it to a lower level character once that character is is in tier. I am basing this off of the rules for applying We Be Goblins Too! And Free!, also pregen-only (aside from the rare goblin PC) scenarios:
"All players who play the entire module receive the attached Chronicle sheet which may be applied to any 2nd-, 3rd-, or 4th-level PC as if that character had played the module. A GM who runs a module may likewise apply credit to any one of her Pathfinder Society PCs of those levels. The decision of which character to apply credit to must be made when the Chronicle sheet is received and signed by the GM."
This leads me to think that any chronicle applied to lower-level PC's would get applied as soon as that PC is in tier for the pregen-only scenario.
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@UndeadMitch: That is what the post I linked said.
One of the responses was that that part was not what was being referenced, but when you actually use the boon, and use the kobold pregen in another scenario or module, on who & how to apply the chronicle from that adventure, which would be 1st level, reduced gold, or 4th level, to match the level of the pregen used.
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Venture-Lieutenant, Florida—Jacksonville
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So is there a confirmation that kobold pregen boon is player boon and it can be applied to any character? <_<;
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I think you are confirming what he is asking, that he can use that boon once, but that the character that the pregen is used for does not have to be the same one that played True Dragons. Which is my interpretation.
For example, I play True Dragons with my -13. By crossing the boon off of -13's chronicle, my -15 can use the pregen that I played through True Dragons with for that one time only.
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I'd like to know that, too. And from the answers here there doesn't appear to be a straight answer. I'd applied the kobold boon to one of my characters for the xp. Later on I forgot about it and missed the chance to play the kobold as that character is no longer within that range. Am I out of luck or can I cross that boon off to play that kobold even for a different character?
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I see no reason to deny a person a chance to play such an awesome boon just because your issued character leveled out.
what sort of tool would do that to folks?
You'd be surprised...
That being said, I haven't run across any GM hardware yet in my experience with PFS play.
However, a previous campaign I played in had a few that would determinedly fit in that category, and even grin sadistically as they ripped up the portion of the boon in front of you, or take a huge black felt-tip marker and write
EDIT: This is why I prefer PFS play, because the toolshed tends to stay home.
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Venture-Captain, Germany—Hamburg
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The boon simply adds the kobold you played in True Dragons to your legal options when you choose to play a 4th level pregen. When applying credit for the scenario you played the kobold in via the boon, you follow the normal rules for applying pregen credit: Either designate a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd level character and apply to that charater once they hit 4th level; or apply to a 1st level character immediately by reducing gold to 500 gp.
Secondary question: normally when you play a pregen for a character who isn't in tier yet you hold off on applying anything on it till you match level. Does that still apply to this pregen? (Can my level 3 who's got this waiting for them at level 4 play the pregen in a 1-5)?
As for applying the True Dragons chronicle, since it's pregen-only, you can apply the chronicle immediately to a 3rd, 4th, or 5th level character as if that character actually played through the scenario (the only exception to the general rule of not applying to a character of the pregen's level or above). Alternatively, you can designate a 1st or 2nd level character, but then you'd use the rule for applying pregen credit to lower-level characters, which means the chronicl gets only applied once the character reaches 4th level. In that case, you wouldn't have access to the boon until you apply it.
Lastly, you can apply the chronicle to a 1st level character by reducing gold to 500 gp. In that case, the boon will only be active when the character reaches the minimum level of the scenario's tier (3rd).(If this is different for a boon affecting the player instead of the character, somebody please correct me and provide a link.)
Is there anywhere we can get the pregens sheets if we don't have access to the special pdf so players can make use of the boon?
If the GM didn't let the players keep their copy of their pregen, that would be quite cruel. The GM should know they'll need it at some point.
If you played True Dragons and didn't get to keep your pregen, I'd suggest asking your local VO to print it for you.
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A player can use this boon regardless of what character played the scenario. If -1 plays True Dragons, -2 can use the boon in question.
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Is there anywhere we can get the pregens sheets if we don't have access to the special pdf so players can make use of the boon?
Sorry to necro this thread, but I couldn't find the answer to Ragoz's question anywhere. I played it at Aethercon, so there weren't paper copies of the pregens for a GM to hand out.
Would it be possible for someone with access to the pdf to export just the pregen pages and upload them to the GM Shared Prep site, or somewhere else public, and then link that back here so searchers can easily find it?