Is a Teleporting Thief Possible?


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Hello there all. I have a bit of a strange question, but I thought you fine people might be able to aid me in an answer. So the main thing is I had a thought about trying to formulate a a stealth oriented, spellcastery type character. The things is that I wanted to see how possible it would be to make a character that focuses on sneaking around, but employs things like teleportation spells and illusions to get around and avoid harm. Do any of you know if this is too farfetched or could this be possible with the right build and know-how?


Arcane Trickster -> More spellcastery rogue.

Shadowdancer -> More non-spellcastery rogue.

Both will give you teleportation stuff and illusions, though Trickster will give you more of both.

For the Arcane Trickster, use Conjuration(Teleportation) Wizard as your school specialization and you will have a minor teleportation as a swift action. It ends your turn and you won't go too far, but there is the dimensional agility line of feats if you REALLY want them.


You could just make a wizard and take ranks in stealth, disable device... a wizard should have more than enough INT to put ranks into skills.

With your spells , with time it shouldnt be a problem to steal things.


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And Bard. Always Bard.


Magi are great at this. It won't happen until late levels though.

A Teleportation or Exploiter Wizard (or Arcanist) can do it earlier, it really depends on what you want from the character.

You could look into the Dimensional Agility line of feats, or the Shadow Dancer prestige class.

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You can do this. The question is what do you want to do specifically? There's multiple ways to be a thief, ranging from pickpocketing, robbery, and to pulling heists.


I will look into those. Thank you everyone.


I'd recommend Sylph Wizard from the Teleportation School so you can begin teleporting right away...

As a Sylph, you can get higher stealth ranks than anyone. You can focus on illusion spells if you want since the school ability will cover all your teleportation needs. Take the Trapfinder trait if your GM allows (giving you the ability to disarm magic traps), you'll be better than most rogues at sneaking and of course, teleporting.

Just an FYI though, your damage output will be super-low. You're building on theme, not power.


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VRMH wrote:
And Bard. Always Bard.

Agreed. Try the sandman. Pick locks, cast spells and stab backs. With the feats in dirty tactics you can buff up lost sneak attack dice by a bit with accomplished sneak attacker.

Some jaunt boots are really what you want tho.

When you teleport you get no further actions for the turn. Jaunt boots allow a 5 foot step t be 15 3 times a day with no side effects.

Rogue need to get into place to be effective. This allows you to move 15 feet and still do a full attack. Just wait for a friend to charge, do a 15 foot port and start hitting.


Play a teleportation wizard and take the traits to make perception and disable device/trap finding class skills. Apply points as appropriate.


I would go with Psychic, maybe with VMC. You've got access to the teleportation spells, everything you cast is silent, and you've got plenty of skill points. You get Knock, Invisibility, Dimension Door, Teleport, and the full illusion line-up.

Similarly, Mesmerist rather than Bard because Bard spells can't be silenced even with metamagic. You've got lots of options for making people forget they saw you if something does go wrong.


Sphynx wrote:
As a Sylph, you can get higher stealth ranks than anyone.

Except for every small sized race ever. Especially halflings who get the +4 size bonus and +2 racial bonus, and goblins, who get +4 size and +4 racial and also have a +4 to dex so get 1 more point from that. Or if you want to retain the intelligence bonus for casting, ratfolk with the skulk trait or Wayangs: also +4 size, +2 racial


can you third party? If so, Spheres of Power has just the thing for you. Take the feat that gives you access to one sphere and a single magic point, and youll be able to teleport around all day. You can take a second feat to upgrade it too if you want.


Threeshades wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
As a Sylph, you can get higher stealth ranks than anyone.
Except for every small sized race ever. Especially halflings who get the +4 size bonus and +2 racial bonus, and goblins, who get +4 size and +4 racial and also have a +4 to dex so get 1 more point from that. Or if you want to retain the intelligence bonus for casting, ratfolk with the skulk trait or Wayangs: also +4 size, +2 racial

Shush, there aren't enough Sylphs around... :/ Besides, who wants to be "small"?!? :P


You can bee a small Sylph.


master_marshmallow wrote:
You can bee a small Sylph.

Good point, but goblins still out-stealth them on grounds of the better Dex.


Goblins are a race where a single skill point nets you like... a 14 skill. And dark vision.

How those little bastards haven't killed us all I will never know.


You could combine it with the quite ridiculous terrain master rogue build, since the cornerstone of that build, Horizon Walker, has access to dimension door.


Personally I would go sandman bard and then prestige to arcane trickster. No multiclass needed.


master_marshmallow wrote:
You can bee a small Sylph.

Wait, can you? I didn't think they had the same things a Tiefling or Aasimar has.


The Mortonator wrote:
master_marshmallow wrote:
You can bee a small Sylph.
Wait, can you? I didn't think they had the same things a Tiefling or Aasimar has.

I'm fairly certain it applies to all the plane touched races.


I converted an 8th level NPC 1e fighter/assassin into a Ranger/Fighter/Rogue. She had a greater ring of spell storing that was charged up by a 9th level wizard. Dimension door, invisibility and Lightning bolt were the three spells typically stored on the ring.

The party were terrified of her, she kept stalking them and attacking from stealth, often striking with the lightning bolt as soon as discovered and retreating using the dimension door before the party could seriously threaten her.

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