I'm putting together a character, as per title, that I'd like to eventually run. However, I don't quite know what to do for the class. As it stands now, the race will be teifling, using the rakshasa-spawn (+2 Dex/Cha -2 Wis) as a fill in for something descended from Leng. Whether I keep detect thoughts or switch it out for the bite attack is still in the air.
The current contenders for class, and the ideas I'm considering are follows:
Dark Tapestry Oracle: I'd like this a lot more if it wasn't so geared toward shape-shifting. Love the cloak ability though, even if the stealth bonus doesn't do that much for you (since the class doesn't have precision damage). Being able to contact the outer gods as a class ability also hits me in the right way. Oracle also has access to Symbol of Insanity, which is something I'm interested in. Disguise as a class skill.
Abomination Psychic: The psychic magic is great. SR? Thank you. Great kit overall. Another bonus is that the psychic doesn't have to depend on their patron deity to get by. Disguise isn't a class skill. Doesn't get Symbol of Insanity.
I've given the arcane 9th level casters a look, and I'm not feeling them for the concept.
If anyone has any insight on developing the concept, your input would be much appreciated!
Appeaser Cleric could be fun as well (from Agents of Evil).
I think arcane casters could be fun as well.
Protean Sorcerer does totally fit the bill.
Black-Blooded Dark Tapestry oracle
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If you like the fluff of the dark tapestry but don't like the shapeshifting, and your DM is ok with 3rd party products, then I wholeheartedly recommend the Old Gods Mystery from Kobald Press. In case your wondering, it's basically fluffed as a "worshiper of eldritch horrors/lovecraftian monsters"...a sort of "cthulu cleric" using the oracle chassis in place of the cleric one. It's on the SRD, too...I've posted the link to it's SRD page for your evaluation. I think it fits exactly what your looking for since it fits the "dark tapestry" theme to a "T" without a heavy shape-shifting focus.
The Link: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/mysteries/kobold-press- --oracle-mysteries/old-gods
if you do a sorcerer, you should use the Starsoul bloodline/ the void touched Wildblooded version.
What kind of role do you envision this character playing, Im a big fan of the psychic spell list, but the oracle has way cooler class features; you could split the difference and use Variant multiclass or the eldritch heritage feat chain to pick up the Starsoul bloodline powers.
I built a black blooded Dark Tapestry oracle, and he's not working out as well as id hoped; if I were to do something like it again, I would probably do dual cursed to pick up the extra revelations, and use variant multiclass as above. although the black blooded archetype is very cool.
I'm putting together a character, as per title, that I'd like to eventually run. However, I don't quite know what to do for the class. As it stands now, the race will be teifling, using the rakshasa-spawn (+2 Dex/Cha -2 Wis) as a fill in for something descended from Leng. Whether I keep detect thoughts or switch it out for the bite attack is still in the air.
The current contenders for class, and the ideas I'm considering are follows:
Dark Tapestry Oracle: I'd like this a lot more if it wasn't so geared toward shape-shifting. Love the cloak ability though, even if the stealth bonus doesn't do that much for you (since the class doesn't have precision damage). Being able to contact the outer gods as a class ability also hits me in the right way. Oracle also has access to Symbol of Insanity, which is something I'm interested in. Disguise as a class skill.
Abomination Psychic: The psychic magic is great. SR? Thank you. Great kit overall. Another bonus is that the psychic doesn't have to depend on their patron deity to get by. Disguise isn't a class skill. Doesn't get Symbol of Insanity.
I've given the arcane 9th level casters a look, and I'm not feeling them for the concept.
If anyone has any insight on developing the concept, your input would be much appreciated!
Seems like the Oracle of Dark Tapestry is the best bet? There's exactly ONE revelation that is geared towards Shape Shifting, and none of it's spells are. (And you seem interested in Disguise; Many Forms is an amazing short duration Disguise.) Wings of Darkness is incredibly useful, and you get amazing spells like Black Tentacles. Wings of Darkness is also incredibly useful, and Pierce the Veil + Deeper Darkness is great.
You can further tweak your character with some of the really baller archetypes, like Dual-Cursed or Spirit Guide.
EDIT: OK, and your final revelation includes some shape shifting too, but are you actually playing to 20? And even so, that's just one more tool in the box for a 20th level caster.
Appeaser Cleric could be fun as well (from Agents of Evil).
I think arcane casters could be fun as well.
Protean Sorcerer does totally fit the bill.
Getting temporary access to domains other than Void and Madness aren't something I'm interested in. The issue is that running a cleric limits my options. For example, if I run Hastur as the patron, I loose out on Madness. I could go CN Azathoth, or worship the pantheon as a whole, and run positive energy, a neat twist, but I don't want to play a healer.
Protean Sorcerer is neat, but it doesn't sing my song.
Or Aberrant.
The Long Limbs ability doesn't have a place in my heart.
Black-Blooded Dark Tapestry oracle
I don't like the Dex penalty.
If you like the fluff of the dark tapestry but don't like the shapeshifting, and your DM is ok with 3rd party products, then I wholeheartedly recommend the Old Gods Mystery from Kobald Press. In case your wondering, it's basically fluffed as a "worshiper of eldritch horrors/lovecraftian monsters"...a sort of "cthulu cleric" using the oracle chassis in place of the cleric one. It's on the SRD, too...I've posted the link to it's SRD page for your evaluation. I think it fits exactly what your looking for since it fits the "dark tapestry" theme to a "T" without a heavy shape-shifting focus.
The Link: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/oracle/mysteries/kobold-press- --oracle-mysteries/old-gods
That's not bad! You're shoe-horned into some mediocre abilities at the start, but overall I like it. It's adds some paperwork, as a 3rd party mystery, but it's officially on my short list. Thanks for sharing that with me.
if you do a sorcerer, you should use the Starsoul bloodline/ the void touched Wildblooded version.
What kind of role do you envision this character playing, Im a big fan of the psychic spell list, but the oracle has way cooler class features; you could split the difference and use Variant multiclass or the eldritch heritage feat chain to pick up the Starsoul bloodline powers.
I built a black blooded Dark Tapestry oracle, and he's not working out as well as id hoped; if I were to do something like it again, I would probably do dual cursed to pick up the extra revelations, and use variant multiclass as above. although the black blooded archetype is very cool.
Void Touched suffers from being more about bringing the void of space to you, rather than about the things that dwell there. You're right, the Oracle is conceptionally more robust than the Psychic. I'm always interested in taking the Eldritch Heritage feats. Thank you for your insight.
Seems like the Oracle of Dark Tapestry is the best bet? There's exactly ONE revelation that is geared towards Shape Shifting, and none of it's spells are. (And you seem interested in Disguise; Many Forms is an amazing short duration Disguise.) Wings of Darkness is incredibly useful, and you get amazing spells like Black Tentacles. Wings of Darkness is also incredibly useful, and Pierce the Veil + Deeper Darkness is great.
You can further tweak your character with some of the really baller archetypes, like Dual-Cursed or Spirit Guide.
EDIT: OK, and your final revelation includes some shape shifting too, but are you actually playing to 20? And even so, that's just one more tool in the...
You're right, on all counts. I appreciate it.
What about a Summoner with the trait for cultists of the Old Ones that boosts your summons ?
Do you mean Second Tongue? That'll work for any of these caster classes actually. I did consider the Summoner, but it didn't have the scope I was looking for.
The Black-Blooded Dex penalty is only on dex-based skill checks. It doesn't apply to attacks or saves.