Trait Clever Wordplay: Able to Select 'Profession (All)'?

[Tabletop Giant]

Text for Clever Wordplay:

Benefit: Choose one Charisma-based skill. You attempt checks with that skill using your Intelligence modifier instead of your Charisma modifier.

I think I know the answer to this one, but I'm hoping to be surprised (I want to be wrong because it's easier to be wrong in this case).

Can a player choose the generic 'Profession' skill for Clever Wordplay, or do they need to declare a specific profession (e.g., 'Profession (Sailor)')?

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[mourge40k]

... Isn't Profession based off of Wisdom?

[Gisher]

mourge40k wrote:

... Isn't Profession based off of Wisdom?

Yep.

[Nigrescence]

There are no "generic" professions or a "Profession (All)". To allow that, your DM would have to say that it is accepted as a house rule (thus making specific professions absolutely obsolete because everyone could be all professions for the same exact investment). Additionally, the Profession skill is Wisdom-based, not Charisma-based, unless you have an ability that makes it Charisma-based (and usually that would only be for one specific profession. And my advice to any DM asked this would be to say a big, fat "NO!".

[Ciaran Barnes]

If so you had said Perform instead of Profession, there might have been something to talk about. It still wouldn't be allowed though.

[Cavall]

I'm going to guess Perform. I'm also going to guess no chance in hell.

[Splendor]

Lost Love and Patient calm are the only traits that give a better bonus to any single profession check (others do give +1).

Lost Love is a campaign trait that gives +2.
Patient Calm allows you to take 12 instead of taking 10.

So patient calm and lost love could let you effectively get 14+skill.

We did have a character in the 2nd darkness take the 'Looking for Work' trait, 'Patient Clam' trait and skill focus profession (gambler) for a 20 total when he took "10".
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For multiple craft skill you take the trait propitiation. Each day you get +2 to one skill from a set list of skills (craft being one of them).

For perform you take Strength of the Sun. Which gives +1 to all Charisma checks.

[Tabletop Giant]

I did mean Perform - woops.

Okay - was just a sanity check, thanks!

[Casual Viking]

Tabletop Giant wrote:

Text for Clever Wordplay:

Benefit: Choose one Charisma-based skill. You attempt checks with that skill using your Intelligence modifier instead of your Charisma modifier.

I think I know the answer to this one, but I'm hoping to be surprised (I want to be wrong because it's easier to be wrong in this case).

Can a player choose the generic 'Profession' skill for Clever Wordplay, or do they need to declare a specific profession (e.g., 'Profession (Sailor)')?

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Perform (which is the one you care about) rules:

Quote:

You are skilled at one form of entertainment, from singing to acting to playing an instrument. Like Craft, Knowledge, and Profession, Perform is actually a number of separate skills. You could have several Perform skills, each with its own ranks.

[kinevon]

Perform, Craft, and Profession, like Knowledge, is an umbrella to simplify the write-up in the book, but each of them covers specific areas, rather than a generic overall thing.

Perform (String), Craft (Cooking), Profession (Barrister), and Knowledge (Religion).

[My Self]

Tabletop Giant wrote:

I did mean Perform - woops.

Okay - was just a sanity check, thanks!

You failed your save? Take 1d6 sanity damage.

[Paulicus]

There is some other feat that specifies "all" as an option for one of those skills. Can't remember what, or even understand why it's there. =/

[Splendor]

Quote:

Skill Focus

Choose a skill. You are particularly adept at that skill.
Benefit: You get a +3 bonus on all checks involving the chosen skill. If you have 10 or more ranks in that skill, this bonus increases to +6.

Everything else either lists a specific perform subtype or says something like "you gain a +X bonus to one category of Perform checks".

[Blakmane]

Splendor wrote:

Quote:

Skill Focus

Choose a skill. You are particularly adept at that skill.
Benefit: You get a +3 bonus on all checks involving the chosen skill. If you have 10 or more ranks in that skill, this bonus increases to +6.

Everything else either lists a specific perform subtype or says something like "you gain a +X bonus to one category of Perform checks".

Skill focus would also have to be for a specific perform skill as per the wording supplied above by casual viking.