usually casting a spell is a standard action but you can use spellstrike to cast it as part of a melee attack.
my question is if I have multiple attacks because of my BAB, so I get to attack additional times when using spellstrike?
using a two handed weapon
You're confusing Spellstrike and Spell Combat, for starters. Spellstrike lets you discharge touch attacks via a melee weapon, Spell Combat lets you cast a Standard Action spell and take a full attack as a full round action.
Second, yes, if your BAB grants you additional attacks you get these when you Spell Combat: See FAQ.
Third, you can't use Spell Combat with a 2 handed weapon. Must be a light or 1-handed weapon
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usually casting a spell is a standard action but you can use spellstrike to cast it as part of a melee attack.
my question is if I have multiple attacks because of my BAB, so I get to attack additional times when using spellstrike?
using a two handed weapon
Spell Combat and Spellstrike can be difficult to understand at first. I always recommend that new Magus players read Grick's Guide to Touch Spells, Spellstrike, and Spell Combat.
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The Mindblade archetype is the only way i know of for a magus to cast a spell and swing a two handed weapon in the same round but it is only available at very high levels. otherwise you can have a one handed weapon, cast a spell and on the following turn two hand the weapon when you spell strike a held charge i believe.
Exact. A strength build for a magus make that a interesting option. A pity that there isn't the equivalent of a bastard sword for the scimitar.
But 2 handling a scimitar work with power attack, so it isn't a big problem.It is very useful with spells that allow multiple touches, like Chill touch or Frostbite.
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The Mindblade archetype is the only way i know of for a magus to cast a spell and swing a two handed weapon in the same round but it is only available at very high levels. otherwise you can have a one handed weapon, cast a spell and on the following turn two hand the weapon when you spell strike a held charge i believe.
As long as you're not trying to use Spell Combat, any random magus can cast a touch spell and then use a two-handed weapon to deliver the spell via Spellstrike.
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Can i cast a spell and use my first attack with one handed then switch to two handed for remainder of attacks?
If you're talking about Spell Combat, you've got to commit: one-handed all the way. (If you're not talking about Spell Combat, then you can't cast a spell and make multiple attacks in a round anyway.)
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ok, I havent played a magus really so the spell combat and spell strike are still a little foreign to me.
So my understanding is as a full round action i can cast a spell and make a one handed attack with a -2 on the attack right? if i have multiple attacks i can do those as well in the same full round action?
Now you can also channel your touch spells through your weapon. can i cast a touch spell one round hold the charge then wield my weapon in two hands and discharge the touch spell like that?
Yes, spell combat allows you to cast a spell and then take all of your iterative attacks at a -2 penalty as a full round action
Yes, I believe you are allowed to hold a charge in that way.
As Gisher recommended earlier, I recommend you read Grick's Guide to Touch Spells, Spellstrike, and Spell Combat (see the link in Gisher's post)
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Now you can also channel your touch spells through your weapon. can i cast a touch spell one round hold the charge then wield my weapon in two hands and discharge the touch spell like that?
Yes, you can. And since you aren't using Spell Combat, there is no -2 penalty. You only get the free touch attack during the round that you cast the spell. If you hold the charge until the next round then you will be limited to your regular attacks.
At higher levels spells with multiple charges like Frostbite or Chill Touch will last for several rounds worth of attacks. Remember that you only get the "extra" attack on the round that you cast. Also you can't cast any other spells without losing all of the charges.
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I recommend a close reading of the "Touch Spells in Combat" rules in the Combat chapter of the Core Rulebook. It's a section of the rules that most people think they understand but really don't, and trying to grasp the Magus brings that to light because the Magus isn't actually all that complicated unless you already don't understand touch spells. For instance, most of the stuff about Spellstrike that people don't get is actually not unique to Spellstrike, and is instead part of the Core rules on touch spells. Thus, I find that most of the time, if someone is finding the Magus confusing, it's because they don't actually understand touch spells, and need to start there.
Hope that helps!
I recommend a close reading of the "Touch Spells in Combat" rules in the Combat chapter of the Core Rulebook. It's a section of the rules that most people think they understand but really don't, and trying to grasp the Magus brings that to light because the Magus isn't actually all that complicated unless you already don't understand touch spells. For instance, most of the stuff about Spellstrike that people don't get is actually not unique to Spellstrike, and is instead part of the Core rules on touch spells. Thus, I find that most of the time, if someone is finding the Magus confusing, it's because they don't actually understand touch spells, and need to start there.
Hope that helps!
I agree. That is why Grick's guide is so great. He starts by walking through the touch spell mechanics. I had many, many misconceptions before reading his guide.
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The Katana is basically the bastard sword equivalent. two handed martial unless you spend a feat, same threat range as a scimitar and one die size up for damage.The Mindblade archetype is the only way i know of for a magus to cast a spell and swing a two handed weapon in the same round but it is only available at very high levels. otherwise you can have a one handed weapon, cast a spell and on the following turn two hand the weapon when you spell strike a held charge i believe.Exact. A strength build for a magus make that a interesting option. A pity that there isn't the equivalent of a bastard sword for the scimitar.
But 2 handling a scimitar work with power attack, so it isn't a big problem.It is very useful with spells that allow multiple touches, like Chill touch or Frostbite.
True. I don't like the "easter stuff is better" idea, so I tend to forget those items. My group don't use them, normally.