My player wants the dragon breathes of a gold and umbral dragon because she was born from the their combined souls. What should I do
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My player wants the dragon breathes of a gold and umbral dragon because she was born from the their combined souls. What should I do
Say no.
Or give more information. Why should they even have ONE, let alone TWO?
Are they a half dragon?
Do they have a class granting the use of breath weapons?
Details please.
Is the character a dragon, or a half-dragon, or a dragon blooded sorceress?
As a GM I'd probably allow it, but make either breath weapon half as effective and share the same cool down.
I dont know about half as effective. That just sounds punishing. I would agree though that they should share the same cooldown and maybe even extend the cooldown by a dice level(d6->d8) since their body doesnt solely focus on producing that one element. Just my two cents. Dont know why they are getting two breath weapons in the first place but as long as its legit im totally game for more player and system diversity, its not going to tip the scale of power in the slightest.
Edit: And Gold questionably should not work beccause as far as I know PCs dont get dragon age catagories. Unless they are trying to say their age catagory for their race should = their dragon age catagory in which case I would flat out say No! Going by that she would have a 6-9 age catagories depending on their character. Which is a AOE strength damage of 6-9 which is not a acceptable thing to have at almost any level.
It's more of a versatility thing. Two options are generally better than one, so to balance I'd reduce the effectiveness. Perhaps half is too much, 3/4ths maybe better. Hard to tell without play testing.
I would also agree with stepping the cooldown up as an acceptable penalty for the added versatility. If memory serves dragon breath is 1d4, so I'd do something like 1d6+1.
I can't think of a better example at the moment, but using variant channeling as an basis, the added versatility in the channel is balanced by 1/2 effectiveness of the normal function.
Variant Channeling is not a fair equivalent because you get to use both effects at the same time so it is suppose to equal at to a full channel. It is even more unfair because most of the variant channel ability are vastly better then the dice you are giving up as long as your goal was not to actually heal them(which is why you take VC).
In this case you have to choose one of the other so the secondary breath weapon doesnt make up for the loss if you decrease its effectiveness. So again your basically just punishing a player for little to no mechanical benefit.
Also Gold is a valid type, it's the Metallic fire dragon [aka fire breath]. Unless she also wants weakening breath from Gold... which is definitely a no.
Likewise the Umbral breath weapon is negative energy [can't heal undead]. I'd definitely tell the player no if they wanted the shadow breath from the Umbral Dragon.
My bad, misunderstood one of the dragons Special abilities for its actual breath weapon. Yea fire and Neg energy are fine(though neg energy is a little stronger then average due to being a rare resistance), I wouldnt have a problem with either.
You're missing all of the important information, which is how is the player getting these breath weapons?
I'm not an expert, but I feel like it is probably possible to come up with a build that could get 2 different breath weapons.
I'm willing to entertain the idea of house ruling in an Umbral Dragon's breath weapon. He still needs to first establish how he intends to get two breath weapons.
At a guess, this is the character in question.
Personally i would actually just let the dragonbreath deal 50/50 of the elemental types of the two dragons.
And then make him take the choice of either of the breathstyles from lvl 1 ( Line or Cone or whatever )
This way he can have the flavour he wants without disturbing the game balance too much.
Based on your other thread, this character is immensely broken already so just let them have what they want.
If the character can gain this Draconic Breath Feat (being kobold, through Racial Heritage, customized race or through a GM's houserule), I don't see it as broken.
Gaining a second breath weapon at 4th using the Dragonbreath power of the Dragon Subdomain here is another option.
Of course, the Umbral is not a valid option in both cases unless, again, houseruled by the GM.