2nd edition?


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Hello. I am thinking about starting to play Pathfinder but since the game is already several years old, I'm thinking whether I should wait for a second edition instead of committing to purchase 1st edition books now. Is there any info about a possible 2nd edition on the horizon?


Not that I'm aware of, but if you are interested in Pathfinder but iffy about the books take a look at d20pfsrd; it has all rules, monsters, classes, etc. really everything except the setting material. It should give you a good idea about whether or not you want to pay for the product.

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Probably not for a few more years. Though if they do they would have to offer something new IMO. A rehash of a rehash with a few houserules and new art. Is not going to do as well the second time around. Especially with 5E fixing some of the flaws of 3.5. Chaos effects advice is good check out the SRD.


Sakri wrote:
Hello. I am thinking about starting to play Pathfinder but since the game is already several years old, I'm thinking whether I should wait for a second edition instead of committing to purchase 1st edition books now. Is there any info about a possible 2nd edition on the horizon?

This made me laugh, thank you.

(more sriously:I second chaoseffect's answer, he has the gist of it )


I actually played D&D 4th edition for years and then moved to 5e. However, I find 5e lacking in character options and the system is a tad too light to my tastes. Plus, they publish supplements and adventures too slowly. That's why I'm thinking of moving to PF now.

Are martial classes more interesting in PF than in 3e? Do they have more to do than "I just hit the monster again"? Do they have access to maneuvers like in 3e:s Tome of Battle? Also, are wizards, clerics, and druids more in balance than in 3e?


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Sakri wrote:

I actually played D&D 4th edition for years and then moved to 5e. However, I find 5e lacking in character options and the system is a tad too light to my tastes. Plus, they publish supplements and adventures too slowly. That's why I'm thinking of moving to PF now.

Are martial classes more interesting in PF than in 3e? Do they have more to do than "I just hit the monster again"? Do they have access to maneuvers like in 3e:s Tome of Battle? Also, are wizards, clerics, and druids more in balance than in 3e?

While there have been some changes, Pathfinder is still mostly 3.5 D&D just with a different coat of paint.


Sakri wrote:
Are martial classes more interesting in PF than in 3e? Do they have more to do than "I just hit the monster again"?

Depends on what you mean by 'martial'. There are certainly classes that can fight as martials but can also do other interesting things (Alchemists, Inquisitors) - but standard Fighters can mostly just attack. Combat manoeuvres - trip, disarm, and so on - are available, but need feats and don't work against a lot of monsters.

Sakri wrote:
Also, are wizards, clerics, and druids more in balance than in 3e?

Wizards: Very high power potential. If the GM allows you to use all options and you make full use of them you can control almost any situation.

Clerics: Can be very powerful casters - or they can wind up following the party around healing their status effects. Unlike in 3.5 they are not better at melee than Fighters.
Druids: Also very powerful - their wild-shape ability gets stronger every time a new Bestiary is published. Unlike in 3.5, they can't dump Strength and still be just as good at biting people.


Sakri wrote:
Are martial classes more interesting in PF than in 3e? Do they have more to do than "I just hit the monster again"? Do they have access to maneuvers like in 3e:s Tome of Battle?

Yes. You can get maneuvers through a book called Path of War, but there are also a few combat heavy classes with a decent amount of versatility like alchemist, inquisitor, bloodrager, paladin, and daevic.

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Also, are wizards, clerics, and druids more in balance than in 3e?

Some spells have been nerf'd, and druids wildshape is nerf'd. Still much more powerful than martials.

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Druids: Also very powerful - their wild-shape ability gets stronger every time a new Bestiary is published.

How? It only gives abilities off a set list from the Core Rule Book that never increases...


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Sakri wrote:

I actually played D&D 4th edition for years and then moved to 5e. However, I find 5e lacking in character options and the system is a tad too light to my tastes. Plus, they publish supplements and adventures too slowly. That's why I'm thinking of moving to PF now.

Are martial classes more interesting in PF than in 3e? Do they have more to do than "I just hit the monster again"? Do they have access to maneuvers like in 3e:s Tome of Battle? Also, are wizards, clerics, and druids more in balance than in 3e?

If 3.5 had 7 tiers (0-6) then pf has 5 (1-5) and 5e has 2 (2-3).

Pf is definitely a more unbalanced game. Martial do just full attack. Wizards are basically gods that the gm will have long rules debates with.


Milo v3 wrote:


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Druids: Also very powerful - their wild-shape ability gets stronger every time a new Bestiary is published.
How? It only gives abilities off a set list from the Core Rule Book that never increases...

Because, if nothing else, the druid can get the natural weapon damage dice from the new creatures. See, for example, Vital Strike builds based around the Carnivorous Crystal Ooze (which has a 7d8 slam) and the Behemoth Hippopotamus.


Matthew Downie wrote:
Milo v3 wrote:


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Druids: Also very powerful - their wild-shape ability gets stronger every time a new Bestiary is published.
How? It only gives abilities off a set list from the Core Rule Book that never increases...
Because, if nothing else, the druid can get the natural weapon damage dice from the new creatures. See, for example, Vital Strike builds based around the Carnivorous Crystal Ooze (which has a 7d8 slam) and the Behemoth Hippopotamus.

Compared to 3.5 where you got ALL of the abilites the monster has AND potentially big enormous damage, PF is pretty tame in wild shape department.

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