I believe it is now 1/6 for all races, as of the recent Errata
EDIT: Ninja'd.
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Even If it was 1/2 pre-errata, you can be sure that it is 1/6 post-errata.
1/2 was monumentally broken, as my oracle with 20th level Animal Companion at level 15th level could tell you. Out tank, out fight, out everything any other melee in the group. (all my gear went to the AC with extra item slot a thing.)
I do believe all the 1/2 got recently changed to 1/6.
There was another FAQ a while back about how animal companions could not be enhanced to have more HD than 1+your oracle level, or something like that. I'd have to go and find the FAQ to remember exactly what it said.
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It was the PFS rule
They could have just left it as a PFS rule.
It was the only place it mattered.
PFS seems to rule all errata.
Outside of PFS, GMs can do whatever they want. It's only society play wear RAW matters more than GMs preference.
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Outside of PFS, GMs can do whatever they want. It's only society play wear RAW matters more than GMs preference.They could have just left it as a PFS rule.
It was the only place it mattered.
PFS seems to rule all errata.
So, when the DM, and 3 of the players have different printings, of the same book, with different errata, there is no problem?
This "you can houserule" is the lamest excuse I hear.
You can houserule a whole system.
We buy the books, so we don't have to.
This is just the beginning...
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This sounds like an animal companion problem, not a +1/2 level on revelations problem. 1/6 might as well be for a brand new revelation.
Pretty much all are busted.
OA clarified the "take a +x to blah before you get blah" to not working RAW, but I never used this cheese. Fixed the players from saying "but nothing is stopping me, there is no rule". Now there is.
I had a dark tapestry oracle with the +1/2 on the polymorph revelation and it was also pretty redonk. Without using cheese mentioned above.
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3 of the players have different printings, of the same book, with different errata,
We buy the books, so we don't have to.
I totally don't understand why this is an issue.
There are not 3 different errata. All 3 books say the same thing regardless of what is actually printed on the paper.
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3 of the players have different printings, of the same book, with different errata,
We buy the books, so we don't have to.
I totally don't understand why this is an issue.
There are not 3 different errata. All 3 books say the same thing regardless of what is actually printed on the paper.
No, you are thinking of a FAQ, not errata.
Look how they errata'd Master of Many Styles, and Crane Wing.
Those say different things.
You can't have things printed differently, but say the say the same thing.
That's exactly what different printings are.
Hard copies are not exactly cheap either.
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Why is it that any time anything is ever effective ever you always call it cheese James?This sounds like an animal companion problem, not a +1/2 level on revelations problem. 1/6 might as well be for a brand new revelation.Pretty much all are busted.
OA clarified the "take a +x to blah before you get blah" to not working RAW, but I never used this cheese. Fixed the players from saying "but nothing is stopping me, there is no rule". Now there is.
I had a dark tapestry oracle with the +1/2 on the polymorph revelation and it was also pretty redonk. Without using cheese mentioned above.
Ignoring claims about posting histories (because (true or not) that doesn't actually attack the argument; just the poster), there is a validity in stating that boosting a revelation's level before you have/qualify for it is egregious. At minimum, it seems reasonable to doubt it's RAI. Let alone issues of RAW.
Outside of PFS, GMs can do whatever they want. It's only society play wear RAW matters more than GMs preference.
Personally, I have little issue with the errata. But frankly, ever time I hear this argument, I get a little annoyed. Primarily for the following reasons:
1. Implying houserules are something one dissatisfied player/GM can change for their whole table, because there is actually a bit of a social contract.2. Implying people can find groups that operate perfectly from their perspective.
3. Implying that people don't take errata/FAQs as signaling that doing something X way is more balanced than Y, and that "Houserules fix it" is a baseline anyone can approach any game with.
4. Implying new prints don't subsequently change the experience for new players.
On topic: 1/2 was a bit broken for a number of revelations. Not just ACs, like the change or no. That said, I have yet to see anyone actually defend 1/6. Which does make me ponder if the balance was rightly struck (or if I have perception bias).
Now, the OP's plans:
aasimar oracle Lunar Mystery with a busted strong animal companion!
If your interest was primarily the AC, I'm partially tempted to recommend Nature over Lunar. I appreciate a Horse AC is weaker offensively at first glance but the ability to add your CHA to all its saves is something you will feel at later levels when a lunar AC starts dying from bad saves. The lack of charisma to reflex might seem a poor trade compared to charisma to CMD but Reflex is the weakest save in terms of what it stops. You won't miss it that much.
Plus, if you really really miss a lot of the companions from the lunar list:Scion of Humanity Aasimar->Racial Heritage(Orc)->Beast Rider
Dip Mammoth Rider
Look at the options for the Monstrous Mount feat (esp. if riding wasn't a concern)
Are all valid ways to get a mechanically stronger AC than the horse.
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Why is it that any time anything is ever effective ever you always call it cheese James?
Because it may be? Don't get me wrong, I love cheese.
I've played most of the cheese that said "I'm Gouda cheese" (like Maneuver Master using Flurry of Maneuvers in Hellknight Full Plate.) Not many ways to interpret the printed version to block this without a stretch.
I just avoid the "Bleu Cheese" that is stuff you get when you read a rule and dream up the most awesome interpretation (like taking +1/2 a revelation you don't yet have.)
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You can't have things printed differently, but say the say the same thing.
Hard copies are not exactly cheap either.
You can. When the errata brings the text in line with the original intended interpretation of the pre-errata text. This has happened many times.
I like hard copies. I've printed out small font sheets and cut out the individual page errata and taped them into margins. Now my book is as good as new!
Hardly game breaking.
I ran through all of Emerald Spire, Wardens of the Reborn Force and part of Shattered Star with a Lunar Oracle with a boosted animal companion. By far the strongest effect was the spell casting the character brought to the table.
A different experience, as my group stopped fielding melee characters at 15th level. The only melee was the cat, and he had in general roughly double the hit points a solid +8 more to hit, better attack, and better grapple than any of the previous melee PC's had.
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The old bonus did make the "armor" revelations like Wood Armor a viable armor replacement. As it is now, you will never be able to rely on those revelations as a replacement for buying armor, as the bonuses will not match what you would have from just buying a suit of armor.
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If you would like input, 1/4 is the same as 1/2. You get capped out on Animal Companion the same as 1/2 and 1/4.It was indeed 1/2 for Elves, but now is 1/6.
In an AP I'm about to run I houseruled it to 1/4.
I made no mention of Animal Companions.
I meant the whole Favored Class Bonus errata entirely.