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And they complain they should be respected while on the road, yet they fly through stop signs and red lights with reckless abandon, cut through gas stations to avoid stopping, and are generally a complete nuisance.no more than two abreast, my brothers.Bicyclists riding in parallel while traffic backs up behind them. Isn't bicycling dangerous enough without further infuriating drivers?
To be fair, Zurias, you've also just described a significant portion of the motorists here in SW FL. A**holes gonna a**, whether the travel by bike or car.
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You have every reason not to want to stop while riding a bike. Its exponentially harder to go from 0 to 20 than to stay at 20. I don't see the problem if they cut through a gas station on the right, they're going from one shoulder of a road to another shoulder of the road.
You have every reason not to want to stop while riding a bike. Its exponentially harder to go from 0 to 20 than to stay at 20. I don't see the problem if they cut through a gas station on the right, they're going from one shoulder of a road to another shoulder of the road.
Agreed. so long as you give right of way to people already in a lane and follow the laws of the road, I see no problem.
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I'm a clumsy cyclist and me struggling to get the bike moving for a second or two after a legal stop is still just as annoying to motorists if not more so. I still do it though, if other folks have right of way.
In other words, there's no way to win.
Also, I have no idea how passing through the lot of a gas station that's currently open could possibly be trespassing. People pass through every day to get gas, that's the point of a gas station lot. People pass through to turn around on roads. Arguing, doing a three point turn in someone's private driveway is more likely to be "trespassing" even though you're only there for three seconds and just to turn around. A law like that would be unreasonable, and doesn't appear to exist where I live.
There are some roads (read: berlin turnpike) that are both so fast and busy that I, a nervous wreck when I was a driver, could not merge onto them out of a parking lot on that road. As a result, if it was possible, I navigated through parking lots to a less busy side street and then took the streets to the turnpike, which I can do. I can't get on the turnpike directly out of a lot, but I can manage that.
Also, states where "turn right on red" doesn't exist on ANY roads, not even roads that could support it, make no sense.
Then again I grew up in a state where "turn right on red" exists. (some roads can't support turn right on red because it would be too dangerous and there would be a sign indicating this, and on red you are supposed to give right of way to traffic coming from the left, just like if you are turning right on a 2 way stop sign.)
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And they complain they should be respected while on the road, yet they fly through stop signs and red lights with reckless abandon, cut through gas stations to avoid stopping, and are generally a complete nuisance.no more than two abreast, my brothers.I suspect this is going to drive me to the "Apologize to Chris" thread, but here are some common ones in my neighborhood:
Joggers running in the street, especially after dark
Said joggers and other pedestrians crossing against red lights with traffic coming, especially in dark clothing at night
Bicyclists riding in parallel while traffic backs up behind them. Isn't bicycling dangerous enough without further infuriating drivers?
Bicyclists who don't wear helmets. In 40+ years and tens of thousands of miles of commuting by bicycle, my mother and I have broken "only" 3. That's 3 skull fractures our family didn't have to suffer through
and yet when cars do it, that guy is just crazy.
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And that attitude is why no one like bicyclists.
Stop signs are not optional because you don't feel like spending the calories to regain your speed.
Lot cutting isn't illegal everywhere, but it is in lots of places under the motor vehicle code and it really isn't a stretch to call it trespassing elsewhere.
and this attitude is why bicyclists don't like car drivers. It's not a matter of getting back up to speed, it's a matter of not being killed by someone turning right who "didn't see you".
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and this attitude is why bicyclists don't like car drivers. It's not a matter of getting back up to speed, it's a matter of not being killed by someone turning right who "didn't see you".And that attitude is why no one like bicyclists.
Stop signs are not optional because you don't feel like spending the calories to regain your speed.
Lot cutting isn't illegal everywhere, but it is in lots of places under the motor vehicle code and it really isn't a stretch to call it trespassing elsewhere.
Not wanting to get killed is also why bicyclists sometimes take the center of the lane despite being slower.
Drivers are not trained to see moving objects on the side of the road. They are trained to see moving objects in the middle of the road. So when you move into the center of the lane where a car would be, you become visible, and thus safer.
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Good point.
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I find cyclists taking the middle of the road to be really annoying but I'd rather that than the side of a road. When I drive past a cyclist who's on the side of the road I'm very careful to try and make sure there's a good distance between us and I drive slow because I start worrying like crazy (cause usually they're on the passenger side and I worry about getting the distance between us wrong).Not wanting to get killed is also why bicyclists sometimes take the center of the lane despite being slower.
Drivers are not trained to see moving objects on the side of the road. They are trained to see moving objects in the middle of the road. So when you move into the center of the lane where a car would be, you become visible, and thus safer.
a difficult skill to master.
I find cyclists taking the middle of the road to be really annoying but I'd rather that than the side of a road. When I drive past a cyclist who's on the side of the road I'm very careful to try and make sure there's a good distance between us and I drive slow because I start worrying like crazy (cause usually they're on the passenger side and I worry about getting the distance between us wrong).Not wanting to get killed is also why bicyclists sometimes take the center of the lane despite being slower.
Drivers are not trained to see moving objects on the side of the road. They are trained to see moving objects in the middle of the road. So when you move into the center of the lane where a car would be, you become visible, and thus safer.
well there's only two places for a cyclist to go, in the middle of the lane or at the right side. in other words, once again, there's no way to win.
But thank you for being conscious.
Also the doors in this dorm are always locked 24/7. the only way to unlock them is to turn the key in the lock and hold it that way. if you let go, it locks again.
Thus you ALWAYS need a key to open a door. Good luck if you went to the bathroom and forgot your key in your room.
By the way these are the only locks that work like this on campus.
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Wear em around your neck.
Old fashioned but it works.
Wear em around your neck.
Old fashioned but it works.
I used a lanyard for my key last term. Then the lanyard broke. I lost my key like five seconds after that.
Right now I'm keeping my key on the same chain on which I keep mjǫlnir. it's annoying but it works. I need some sort of metal clip.
the air conditioning here is so chilly that I'm actually freezing.
I shouldn't need a coat in the goddamn summer.
Why is that censored? God is ok, damn is ok? but goddamn isn't? ok then.
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Don't f%%*ing get me started on the goddamn auto censor the f#!~ing thing won't even let me say Dick Van Dyke, an institution of American Cinema! what kind of shit is that!
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My only gripe with bicyclists is as a pedestrian. I have seen too many cyclists run red lights and cruise into a crowded crosswalk in the process. The cyclists may be accustomed to being the vulnerable party on the road, but that changes when you add pedestrians to the mix, as anyone who has been clipped by a bike can attest.
*gripes about NYC bike messengers and food deliveries*
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Food delivery guys are the worst. I avoid places that deliver by bike because they take stupid risks because if the food is cold, they could be fired. It's a bad way to go about business, and a dangerous lifestyle.
Bike messengers, on the other hand, are the elite of the elite. They are the best cyclists ever, and one that does what you state here is a greenhorn. I doubt I will ever have their level of skill, but that won't stop me from trying...and dreaming....
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The gas station right is illegal because it slows traffic from other directions. A bike won't do that.
And that attitude is why no one like bicyclists.
Stop signs are not optional because you don't feel like spending the calories to regain your speed.
Lot cutting isn't illegal everywhere, but it is in lots of places under the motor vehicle code and it really isn't a stretch to call it trespassing elsewhere.
OTOH, it's very common for cars to make "rolling stops" at stop signs as well, when there isn't traffic. Bikes getting down to the same speed are barely slowing down. :)
I ride with a hefty dose of caution, but I certainly don't stop and put my feet down at every stop sign. Unless someone else has the right of way, of course.
In fact, if someone else is coming, but I have the right of way and stop completely anyway, they're likely to be even more annoyed, since it'll take me noticeably longer to get through the intersection.
Drivers like you irk me so so so so so much. -_- STOP means STOP. I lose count of how many times I see this and the reaction every time is "nice stop, jackass, well done. *sarcastic clapping*"
Or as my dad liked to put it when we were growing up, "It's a STOP sign, not an OOZE sign."
As for bikes... I could rant for hours about bikes but it'd just piss people off so I'll spare us all the frustration.
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As for bikes... I could rant for hours about bikes but it'd just piss people off so I'll spare us all the frustration.And anyone who rides road bikes could rant for hours about cars.
As someone who mostly walks I can rant about both :-)
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The military and their deindividualization programs... Seriously. When you end up in a horrible situation, one that scars you, the things that make you an individual are what keep you sane. The collective instead sends the useless piece of itself, discarding it for new recruits. True story, the military in the US has spent uncountable billions trying to find out what separates those who get PTSD from those who do not. With absolutely no answer in sight. Maybe, duh, you should let people remain individuals? Or, failing that, I dunno, pay them a decent pension if you scar them for life?
Bluh.
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As someone who mostly walks I can rant about both :-)As for bikes... I could rant for hours about bikes but it'd just piss people off so I'll spare us all the frustration.And anyone who rides road bikes could rant for hours about cars.
Here's one of life's most fundamental truths: when it comes to getting from place to place, everyone that's not you is an idiot. :)
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As for bikes... I could rant for hours about bikes but it'd just piss people off so I'll spare us all the frustration.
but...I had a counter rant prepared and everything!
That said, I'm also annoyed when someone coming the other way with the right of way at a four way stop, comes to a complete stop and waits a bit to be sure I'm stopping, because it wastes my time.
Your other option is assuming that every other driver on the road is you.
And not the person that ran the stop sign and crashed into them when they first started driving.
Here's one of life's most fundamental truths: when it comes to getting from place to place, everyone that's not you is an idiot. :)As someone who mostly walks I can rant about both :-)As for bikes... I could rant for hours about bikes but it'd just piss people off so I'll spare us all the frustration.And anyone who rides road bikes could rant for hours about cars.
LOL. Same as the old, "73% of all drivers think they're better than average."
My "rules of the road" are pretty straightforward across all modes of transportation:
(1) If you make the person who has the right of way hit the brakes or otherwise take evasive action, you're a bad driver (or biker or pedestrian or what-have-you)
(2*) If there's room on the right, space in front of you, and 3 or more vehicles (or even pedestrians) behind you and you don't move aside, you're a bad driver
(3*) If you pass on the right, you're a bad driver
(4*) If you make more than 3 lane changes in under a minute, unless they're all in the same direction, you're a bad driver. And even then, your action is questionable
Other than that, I'm pretty relaxed. I don't mind people rolling through stop signs ahead of me if they don't slow me down. I don't mind stopping for pedestrians who stroll out into crosswalks without looking. But double-park, run a stop sign and force me to hit the brakes, ride in tandem so I can't pass, or drive 10 mph under the speed limit in the far left lane and you'll leave me grinding my teeth.
*I think the roads would be a lot safer if these were ticketable actions that were consistently enforced far more than speed laws. It's not the guy doing 120 that's the problem. It's the guy doing 120 and swerving around everyone else like an idiot because he doesn't have a clear lane that's the problem. (And the fact that most people don't understand just how hard it is to control a car at that speed, so they miss curves and plow into things, but that's just raw incompetence.)
The military and their deindividualization programs... Seriously. When you end up in a horrible situation, one that scars you, the things that make you an individual are what keep you sane. The collective instead sends the useless piece of itself, discarding it for new recruits. True story, the military in the US has spent uncountable billions trying to find out what separates those who get PTSD from those who do not. With absolutely no answer in sight. Maybe, duh, you should let people remain individuals? Or, failing that, I dunno, pay them a decent pension if you scar them for life?
Bluh.
Maybe. Though I agree with the decent pension part.
I'd want to see some research backing up the "deindividualization" allows people to get PTSD. People outside the military exposed to horrible situations also get PTSD.
They do. That said, military stints have raised PTSD to an art form. The reason I believe this is the problem is because it is exactly the kind of blind spot the military would have. "Find the reason for PTSD, given the exact same recruitment, training and culture we have now!" "Sorry, nothing comes up..."
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Well, I'd hate to see "pass on the right" be too consistently enforced. There's always that guy who's going 10 miles below the speed limit in the fast lane. :) Or just traffic that's choked up enough that I'd have to slow down to not pass the guy in middle, even though I'm just happily driving traffic speed in my lane.
In general though, passing on the right is a bad plan.
The only thing I hate about 2) is when you do pull over a lane and then get trapped there while a long line of cars pull out and around you.
Yeah, it's obviously a "work in progress" because you can't stop people from passing on the right until other people learn to get out of the way, and I think that will happen exactly... never.
And heavy traffic obviously changes everything.
I can dream, though!
I use a password manager for all my password needs since I can't remember oodles of unique passwords to save my life. It automatically stores all my passwords for me so that I don't have to remember them myself. It exists as an extension in my browser.
Sometimes, I might need to log in on a computer thats not my own, in which case I just login to lastpass on the browser and copy the password over. Lastpass has allowed me to do this freely for as long as I have used it.
Then today, I have to do this again because wifi wasn't working in the library for some reason (so that I couldn't just copy over the password from my computer), and I attempt to login on lastpass. I get greeted with a message telling me I need to approve the login via my email since it's not on my usual computer.
Problem: I can only access my email via lastpass, which I can't log into on the guest computer and wifi isn't working on my personal computer, which is the reason why I'm doing this in the first place.
A classic, incredibly stupid catch-22. I understand this is for security reasons, but it's going to screw up anyone who uses Lastpass to access their email.
I didn't say I did it when driving, I said it was common. (Admittedly I didn't say I didn't do it either.)
I may have misinterpreted but I took this:
I ride with a hefty dose of caution, but I certainly don't stop and put my feet down at every stop sign. Unless someone else has the right of way, of course.
as an admission.
That said, I'm also annoyed when someone coming the other way with the right of way at a four way stop, comes to a complete stop and waits a bit to be sure I'm stopping, because it wastes my time.
If you're blowing through Stop signs without slowing or looking, that's an entirely different thing. If you're down to ~5 mph and have clear visibility, I don't really care. I'd actually rather you just went.
You'd be pissed at me, then. Stop means stop. If there's a red sign, I don't move until my car has come to a complete halt. Or to put it another way, as I was taught when learning to drive, "you haven't actually stopped until you feel the rock-forward from when the car completely stops".
Granted, I get the feeling I piss off a lot of people with how I drive. I drive the speed on the sign, no faster and no slower (as best I can control - there's reasonable expectation of a few MPH slippage due to hills, slopes, rough road, weather, etc.). The fact that it's just generally assumed that speed limit markers are a guideline at best, especially on highways, annoys me to no end. But I tend to stick to the far-right lanes unless something like a road division forces me further left, so I do what I can to limit the annoyance.
As for bikes... I could rant for hours about bikes but it'd just piss people off so I'll spare us all the frustration.but...I had a counter rant prepared and everything!
Heh.
Short version: I don't like any vehicle that can't keep up with the flow of traffic being on the road. That's what sidewalks are for. Anything else is a hazard.
I'm unsure what you mean.That said, I'm also annoyed when someone coming the other way with the right of way at a four way stop, comes to a complete stop and waits a bit to be sure I'm stopping, because it wastes my time.Your other option is assuming that every other driver on the road is you.
And not the person that ran the stop sign and crashed into them when they first started driving.
He's basically saying that either you assume everyone is going to react with extreme over/undercaution, or that everyone is going to react like you would. Generally the former assumption is safer, as you just expect everyone else to do something stupid and keep on the lookout, whereas the latter assumption leads to a situation of "I wouldn't ever do X, I shouldn't be worried about someone else doing X".
A bit over-simplistic summation I think, though.
Food delivery guys are the worst. I avoid places that deliver by bike because they take stupid risks because if the food is cold, they could be fired. It's a bad way to go about business, and a dangerous lifestyle.
Bike messengers, on the other hand, are the elite of the elite. They are the best cyclists ever, and one that does what you state here is a greenhorn. I doubt I will ever have their level of skill, but that won't stop me from trying...and dreaming....
I applied to be a bike messenger, once.
The guy doing the interviews was a total dick tho so I didn't get the job:-(
That was when in Seattle :-)
I didn't say I did it when driving, I said it was common. (Admittedly I didn't say I didn't do it either.)I may have misinterpreted but I took this:
I ride with a hefty dose of caution, but I certainly don't stop and put my feet down at every stop sign. Unless someone else has the right of way, of course.as an admission.
That said, I'm also annoyed when someone coming the other way with the right of way at a four way stop, comes to a complete stop and waits a bit to be sure I'm stopping, because it wastes my time.
If you're blowing through Stop signs without slowing or looking, that's an entirely different thing. If you're down to ~5 mph and have clear visibility, I don't really care. I'd actually rather you just went.You'd be pissed at me, then. Stop means stop. If there's a red sign, I don't move until my car has come to a complete halt. Or to put it another way, as I was taught when learning to drive, "you haven't actually stopped until you feel the rock-forward from when the car completely stops".
Granted, I get the feeling I piss off a lot of people with how I drive. I drive the speed on the sign, no faster and no slower (as best I can control - there's reasonable expectation of a few MPH slippage due to hills, slopes, rough road, weather, etc.). The fact that it's just generally assumed that speed limit markers are a guideline at best, especially on highways, annoys me to no end. But I tend to stick to the far-right lanes unless something like a road division forces me further left, so I do what I can to limit the annoyance.
I always come to a full stop at 4 ways, bike, car, van or whatever. It's the one place where everyone respects everyone else. Or should.
As for bikes... I could rant for hours about bikes but it'd just piss people off so I'll spare us all the frustration.but...I had a counter rant prepared and everything!Heh.
Short version: I don't like any vehicle that can't keep up with the flow of traffic being on the road. That's what sidewalks are for. Anything else is a hazard.
as I have said before, aroundabouts that is literally making every cops day regarding ticket quotas.